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the only people that have anything to lose by going to "greener" and more sustainable energy sources are the oil and coal companies. anything that eliminates our dependance on that shit hole the middle east is good.
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George Carlin said it best.

"The greatest arrogance of all, 'save the planet'."
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George Carlin said it best.

"The greatest arrogance of all, 'save the planet'."
Getting any political or environmental standpoints from a comedian leads me to think priorities may be out of whack...

Mankind is in a position to do BENEFICIAL things for the planet, rather than shirk our responsibilities of protecting it. You may think it is arrogant to want to save the planet, but I think it is small-minded not to.

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Getting any political or environmental standpoints from a comedian leads me to think priorities may be out of whack...
I dunno. I read The New England Journal of Medicine for laughs and crude humor.

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Getting any political or environmental standpoints from a comedian leads me to think priorities may be out of whack...

Mankind is in a position to do BENEFICIAL things for the planet, rather than shirk our responsibilities of protecting it. You may think it is arrogant to want to save the planet, but I think it is small-minded not to.
I think George Carlin was pointing out that the only reason we harbor such a strong inclination to save the planet is because it serves our best interests as humans concerned with the continuity of our species, not so much that the act of taking steps to improve the air or the water is wrong or misguided.

Also, the aforementioned arrogance stems from the belief that we have a necessary role to play in the planet's recovery, that we have a responsibility to protect it from harm, that it somehow cannot continue to exist without our help. I don't think he states that he finds it arrogant to want to do beneficial things for the planet.

He may have been a comedian, but I don't think someone's profession invalidates their opinion. Remember that his comedic success came from his ability to think critically and articulate intelligent arguments in a way that made people laugh.

It's my opinion that Carlin was pretty on point with this one.
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He may have been a comedian, but I don't think someone's profession invalidates their opinion.
I do. I don't listen to environmental opinions from entertainers or politicians.

And if the desire to continue your species is arrogant, then every act of procreation by every species on the planet is a selfish deed. What's so wrong with wanting to continue surviving? What's so wrong with wanting to better our own lives?

The REAL arrogance is in not striving to better the lives of the people on this planet. Idiots who drive Hummers and companies that dump waste into streams is where real arrogance is.

That act sounded to me like Carlin was just trying to be dramatic and dig for material that would make people who think the 7 dirty words are funny laugh for a few minutes. But then, I don't find Carlin funny anyways.

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I do. I don't listen to environmental opinions from entertainers or politicians.
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And if the desire to continue your species is arrogant, then every act of procreation by every species on the planet is a selfish deed. What's so wrong with wanting to continue surviving? What's so wrong with wanting to better our own lives?
I didn't say that human instinct is arrogant, and neither did Carlin. I'll state again:
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The aforementioned arrogance stems from the belief that we have a necessary role to play in the planet's recovery, that we have a responsibility to protect it from harm, that it somehow cannot continue to exist without our help. I don't think he states that he finds it arrogant to want to do beneficial things for the planet.
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The REAL arrogance is in not striving to better the lives of the people on this planet. Idiots who drive Hummers and companies that dump waste into streams is where real arrogance is.
Agreed, but I think this is what Carlin meant when he said "The planet is fine; the PEOPLE are fucked." People driving hummers and companies dumping waste into waterways are examples of human activity making it harder for humans to live. This is why Carlin said environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. He stated that they're concerned with a clean place for themselves to live (which isn't a bad thing at all, but the method by which they market their activities is misleading according to Carlin's logic.)
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"The planet is fine; the PEOPLE are fu**ed."
Quoted because nothing else needs to be said.

The worst case scenario for Earth is that humanity wipes itself out, and honestly, that's probably not such a bad thing in the planet's case.

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Because I generalize all entertainers as mental and all politicians as untrustworthy.
You know what they say about madness and genius .
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