...when you prove them wrong? I bring this up because I got banned from a jeep forum again, and I was even being nice. But every time you prove them wrong, they don't even respond lol. They just completely ignore you and go on with their circle jerk.
Mpd, this is the only forum i've never been banned from. I've even been banned from digg 6 times. But in this case, I was just arguing with them while being nice. usually I'm not that nice, so it's just funny. they just don't like to be proven wrong.
The Conservative base, really wants to be led and more than willing to follow charismatic, authoritarian father figures. They absolutely have to have order and hierarchy in every aspect of their lives. I have found most Conservatives to be a homogeneous group with a real hive mentality who seem very intellectually incurious. They tend to be somewhat cowardly, acting most often in a pack mentality and bullying those they deem weaker so long as they are in a group. Rarely do you see a lone Conservative challenge others; but in a group they become ferocious bullies.
the irony of this of course is that looking at the Conservative need of this behavior one easily thinks of ant, bee, and other colony herd pack etc type living structures .. all of which are inherently very socialized i.e. socialist .. not to mention the biggest socialist movement in our own country .. the U.S. Armed forces...
there is very little wrong with traditional conservatism of which Barry Goldwater was the last (and maybe Ron Paul is the newer breed)however the conservative movement since the days of reagan has gone to shit .. too much control by the religious right .. they have made it a party of morals and money ( one of which they lack and the other they have plenty of .. ill let you decide which is which) Traditional conservatism stands for state rights over govt interference and the belief (rather right or wrong) that our country affords anyone the opportunity to succeed if they desire to work hard enough and sacrifice for their long term goals.
Most Progressives have very little use for or patience with, dogma and protocol and question everything. Progressives don`t trust so called experts and leaders unless they can articulate ideas in a logical manner and back up those ideas with facts.
A Progressive is always going to get in hot water with a group of Conservatives. We become the bull in the china shop. I have experienced this a lot in the aviation community where pilots, by and large have huge political sticks up their asses and become angry when anyone challenges them on their anachronistic viewpoints....
Well SOMEONE has to point out the emperor has no clothes or we'd all be living in Patriot-Act approved caves, thanking the conservatives for taking away our civil liberties and protecting us from those evil nasty terrorists.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Spend away Democrats!!! We'll be broke in years. Whoever is supporting this administration is an absolute idiot. All Obama's promises are a hoax and all this change is bullshit. I'm not a big Bush fan either, but these people running things now are truly idiots. Can someone tell me where all this bailout money went? Socialized healthcare will ruin the country and we can't afford it. Ask your favorate docs what they think. They'll be retiring if this goes through and we'll be stuck with Dr. Pastel and Chin who don't speak English. I want them all out ( Rep and Dems) and let's start over!!!! If I see Pelosi's retarded face again on my TV, I am gonna throw my board through it!
You want to talk about spending? Pot calling the kettle black here dude. In modern times, the biggest spenders who have trashed our economy have been Republicans. Reagan used to hold the record for the biggest deficit spender; now Bush has topped him big time.
Bailouts???? Do some fact checking there buddy; it was Bush who ordered the $700 Billion in bailouts to the banks before Obama was even elected. I agree that Obama should have tried to repeal some of them, but it is a lie on your part to say he did it. The fact that you had to ask where the bailout money went shows you lack any education on this subject. Do a Google search and you will see exactly which banks got what and how much has been paid back with interest. If the banks pay as agreed, the American people will have made billions on the interest paid by the banks.
As for health care, the OMB disagrees with you. A single payer system is actually one of the best things possible to start reducing the deficit. You clearly have no understanding of the mechanics of single payer (like most right wingers). Every proposal includes the mechanism for the system to pay for itself through premiums paid by the people and their employers like it is now with private insurance. Only difference is you do not have huge, bloated private corporations sucking huge profits out of the system like we do now.
From what I am reading here, you are just another Beck Limbaugh listener with "talking points" and have no real factual information on the subjects you are trying to speak of.......
Let's see what happens in November and when this idiot is up for reelection. One term and the worst presidency since Carter. More government YAY. I'm sure you agree with them taking over of Govenment Motors too. MOVE TO CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This healthcare bill is a disaster. If it wasn't it would have been past already. For once, thank god for Massachusetts!