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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-01-2010, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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Obama and Bush - Still waiting for change

Just one more bit of "change" he campaigned on.

The Associated Press: Obama signs one-year extension of Patriot Act

The Patriot Act was wrong when Bush signed it and just as wrong when Obama signed it.
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Live in the New York City area during 911 and you'll feel different about this. Obama's a Socialist douche but I agree on this one. Live here in Jersey and see if you have a change of heart. We have a target on us and are just waiting for something else to happen. They can't even catch a guy on a plane with a 1 way ticket on the watch lists. Don't worry, I think Utah's pretty low on the terrorists list. Watch all these Muslms hear if you ask me. Rumor has it, we have an Al-Qaeda hot bed in NJ.
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Move to fuckin CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By the way, what do you do for a living? Let me guess, either a Union worker, rich asshole with more money then god, or someone on Medicaid. Like I said, wait til Nov. I'm an Independent by the way. But will never vote Democrat because I actually work!!!!!

P.S. Are you a terrorist? If not you have nothing to worry about. You want less government so you can not get phone tapped? That makes me a little suspicious. What are you hiding? Let me guess, profiling Muslims at airports is wrong too. Right? Let's pat down little old ladies so we don't have to offend anyone. No phone taps but Socialism for America? What a DOUCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Part of the problem is that the USA is really the only country left that guarantees many basic liberties. If we don't stand against infringements on these liberties they will erode and we will just meld into one more fascist country on the list of many. The Fourth Amendment is an essential right and should not be taken lightly.

"They who would trade liberty for security soon have none and deserve neither."
(Both Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson said variations of this about the same time of the Founding of the United States)
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Part of the problem is that the USA is really the only country left that guarantees many basic liberties. If we don't stand against infringements on these liberties they will erode and we will just meld into one more fascist country on the list of many. The Fourth Amendment is an essential right and should not be taken lightly.

"They who would trade liberty for security soon have none and deserve neither."
(Both Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson said variations of this about the same time of the Founding of the United States)
Tell that to Marxist Snowolf!
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By the way SNOWOLF. What is your idea of AMERICA?
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dont personally attack someone for their political beliefs. theres nothing wrong with being a socialist. socialism has never been implemented in its true form, always some misconstrewed interpretation.

am i a socialist? nope. independent as well, i just feel the country gets nowhere when all people from differnet beliefs do is attack eachother. there are things to learn from all political and social beleifs.

i support the patriot act. i live within a mile of a major target, and 10 miles from two different nuke plants. if some douche wants to listen to me have phone sex with an asian midget, i dont give a fuck id rather that happen then die a horrible death due to radioactive fallout/ benzene gas cloud.
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dont personally attack someone for their political beliefs. theres nothing wrong with being a socialist. socialism has never been implemented in its true form, always some misconstrewed interpretation.

am i a socialist? nope. independent as well, i just feel the country gets nowhere when all people from differnet beliefs do is attack eachother. there are things to learn from all political and social beleifs.

i support the patriot act. i live within a mile of a major target, and 10 miles from two different nuke plants. if some douche wants to listen to me have phone sex with an asian midget, i dont give a fuck id rather that happen then die a horrible death due to radioactive fallout/ benzene gas cloud.
I absolutely agree. We prob live right next to each other. It's necessary to keep us safe. But this admin is burying us right now and them meddling in my healthcare is unacceptable. I'm already paying out the ass to live in a state that as some of the highest taxes in the nation and we are still on the vurge of bankruptcy. Democrats have been running this state forever by the way! I'm pissed that I'm working my ass off and barely scraping by with my financial responsibilities while my tax dollars support lazy fuckers in Newark and Camden that want a handout!!!!!!!!!! To me, there is no room for Socialism. People move here for the opportunity to better themselves with Capitalism. If you don't want to earn it, move out of the country! I'm done, I actually have to get back to WORK!!!!!!!


On a lighter note: Hey, since your close to where I am, can I get the number for that ASAIN MIDGET?
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the problem with new jersey sadly is not democrat or republican. look at christie whitmans governing of the state! we just cannot get a decent candidate on either side.

that being said, newark and camden are two totally different beasts. camden, while poor, does support a large working class. i attend school in the city and volunteer time with the school to help better neighborhoods. when the jobs left camden, so did the people who worked those jobs, leaving thousands of abandoned houses, which over time, drug addicts and criminals found to be safe haven. demolish the houses, bask in the glory of a huge reduction in crime. (i believe there is still thousands of abandoned crack houses in camden.) the people of newark on the other hand, well, no comment

we all work. we make money, but we have known for decades that to live in new jersey, theres a price, no matter what party is running the show. christies tax breaks are not tax breaks at all, as he is dropping the funding to townships which will in turn raise your property taxes, making the state cuts barely noticable. here we have a republican running on change that will not happen, just as the democratic president has/is.

healthcare is fucked. sure many can afford to have good plans or get the from work, but many dont. is universal necessary? no, i dont think so. i think existing condition clauses and all that need to be regulated. cut costs of plans for people who work out, dont smoke, and have a healthy weight. the auto insurance company is finally catching on to discounts and stuff like this, its smart business. but healthcare is a foster child of a pharmeacutical industry with a shit ton of medical waste every year. democrats need to stop thinking they know it all, republicans have to stop being close minded fucktards, put themselves in the common blue collar worker's shoes and reform the current system.

oh yeah, legalize weed!

where in jersey are you from btw?
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