Not arguing with you one bit about your points so don`t get pissed. Situations like this are why we must avoid war at all costs. I repeat what I said; I am not blaming the soldiers here for the very reasons you elucidate. Clearly, horrible mistakes happen and when those mistakes happen, we as a nation get held accountable and that fuels anti American sentiment. You are never going to use your logic to convince the families of the victims of these mistakes of the "innocence" of the mistake. These "mistakes" generate the hatred and terrorism.
Step back from your "front line troop mentality" and grasp the bigger picture here. None of these "mistakes" would have ever happened if we did not have corrupt politicians sending our military into places we never should have been in the first place.
I wasn't angry at what anyone said on here, I was just upset that there is soo much anger being generated towards the soldiers that were doing their job and looking out for number one in a warzone with limited information and having to make decisions that compromise our image as a nation. IMO they made the right decision and it saddens me that people only see the result and don't look at the broad picture.
Originally Posted by InfiniteEclipse
"COME ON! Let us shoot!"... lol, you cowboys you
what I saw was what appeared to be unarmed civilians helping an unarmed individual in a residential neighborhood...There didn't appear to be any cause for the troops to feel threatened to let it rip like that.
Obviously I'm not in the military to have a balanced perspective, but shoot first apologize later smells like bull
This whole war has been fought primarily in residential neighborhoods, that doesn't make everybody in the zone a civilian. They don't dress differently, and those "cameras" can easily be misconstrued as weapons, as they were. Our soldiers thought they had RPG's, which sure as hell would have been a threat to them. Please, as if shoot first apologize later isn't the mentality of any war throughout history...
bad resolution on the view is not an excuse isn't it? was that the best camera they can afford to put into the apache? i know it is war, but that whole thing was executed poorly... another thing, would you walk around casually like that in a hot spot with AKs and RPG? especially gather in a group like that so the apache can take all of them out? poor judgement in my opinion...
You're right, it's not an excuse, it's a reason. I think it was executed failry well, our soldiers weren't harmed and the threat was neutralized. Sure, the end result was that they were civilians but in the moment, based on what they saw, those were insurgents. I do fell sorrow for what happend, but I hate that the blame is put on our soldiers.
How anyone can defend this is baffling to me. It like defending 9-11.
Open your mind and read what we are saying. I can't believe you are comparing me defending our troops decisions, to a religious extremest group's decision to hijack a couple of airliners and crash them into several buildings. The perpetrators of 9/11 condemned the people innocent civilians on the airlines, as the people going to work, not to mention the children who were in a daycare in the same buildings. What they did is so heinous, it's offensive that you even compared one to the other.
Originally Posted by InfiniteEclipse
lol sorry couldn't resist
I agree, I'd rather have our troops come home too. But while they are there, they are gonna do their jobs.
thats terrible. i think i may submit this to my local news station.
Submit it to your local news? For what purpose? It's allready starting to blow up on the global news, I'm sure they are aware.