If this isn't the truth...... - Snowboarding Forum

MunkySpunk · 06-30-2010, 10:39 AM

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

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According to Mortensen—an otherwise mild-mannered husband, father, and small-business owner—the most serious threat to his fanciful version of the 222-year-old Constitution is the attempt by far-left "traitors" to strip it of its religious foundation.

"Right there in the preamble, the authors make their priorities clear: 'one nation under God,'" said Mortensen, attributing to the Constitution a line from the Pledge of Allegiance, which itself did not include any reference to a deity until 1954. "Well, there's a reason they put that right at the top."

"Men like Madison and Jefferson were moved by the ideals of Christianity, and wanted the United States to reflect those values as a Christian nation," continued Mortensen, referring to the "Father of the Constitution," James Madison, considered by many historians to be an atheist, and Thomas Jefferson, an Enlightenment-era thinker who rejected the divinity of Christ and was in France at the time the document was written. "The words on the page speak for themselves."

snowjeeper · 06-30-2010, 01:29 PM

lol. my message is too short.

DirtySteve · 07-01-2010, 09:24 PM

Ok I've seen you link stories like this before and never looked at the actual link. Maybe the point of the post is lost on me, you do realize that you are linking "The Onion", right?

snowjeeper · 07-01-2010, 09:59 PM

because it's ironic.

DirtySteve · 07-01-2010, 11:07 PM

Well yeah it's ironic and it's great, but it also isn't real.

Snowfox · 07-02-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtySteve

Well yeah it's ironic and it's great, but it also isn't real.

I think the original point was despite The Onion's obvious satirical nature, it still hits pretty close to a truth of American perception of the constitution (or tactics by organizations to insinuate that the Constitution supports certain positions/movements).

Leo · 07-02-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

I also think it is telling that things have gotten so insane in this country that often, people can read stories from The Onion and wonder if they are true. Fact truly is becoming stranger than fiction!

Example: Tom Cruise

MunkySpunk · 07-02-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtySteve

Maybe the point of the post is lost on me, you do realize that you are linking "The Onion", right?

No shit, on both counts.

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Originally Posted by DirtySteve

Well yeah it's ironic and it's great, but it also isn't real.

It's closer to reality than most would think.

snowjeeper · 07-02-2010, 02:05 PM

I found it pretty enlightening that when Bush jr won the first time, they ran an article talking about the Iraq War 2, and then 3 years later it happened! Almost like magic!

DirtySteve · 07-02-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

Just because something is in the Onion, does not mean that there is not any truth to it. While the stary may be fictitious (although it actually may not be) does not mean that someone out there does not feel exactly like this. In fact, most of your Tea Party nuts do believe exactly as this Onion story illustrates. This is simply a case of using satire to point out life`s truths.

Don`t believe it?, then check this out; truth is, as I said, often stranger than fiction:

For God and Country

Did you read the petition? There is actually a lot of good points in there. Other then the contentious issues like the health care part and military spending part. The rest though: terms limits for legislators, constraining bills to a single issue, making it mandatory to publish bills before they are voted on so constituents can weigh in on them.
I don't see much of a problem there.

Even his comments about god are measured saying something to the effect of even though they, founding fathers,
wanted seperation they were still personally motivated and guided by god. As much as you anti religious folks would like to dispute this it is actually something you can't dispute. This is coming from an atheist btw, I get just annoyed by fanatics as you, I just don't get bothered by manger scenes at firehouses or any other such trivial things.

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06-30-2010, 01:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	lol. my message is too short.

07-01-2010, 09:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
DirtySteve Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 31	Ok I've seen you link stories like this before and never looked at the actual link. Maybe the point of the post is lost on me, you do realize that you are linking "The Onion", right?

07-01-2010, 09:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	because it's ironic.

07-01-2010, 11:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
DirtySteve Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 31	Well yeah it's ironic and it's great, but it also isn't real.

07-02-2010, 02:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	I found it pretty enlightening that when Bush jr won the first time, they ran an article talking about the Iraq War 2, and then 3 years later it happened! Almost like magic!