Prop 19 - Snowboarding Forum

twin89 · 10-17-2010, 04:15 PM

opinions? me living in cali, i'm all for it lol

snowjeeper · 10-17-2010, 04:39 PM

There's many many powers opposing this effort. And all of them are about money. Alcohol, pharmaceuticals, DOJ, DEA. All of these companies and organizations make money from pot being illegal.

KIRKRIDER · 10-18-2010, 01:49 PM

voted yesterday. Do it!

Sam I Am · 10-18-2010, 11:00 PM

Eh......I don't really care what happens.

Perpetual3am · 10-19-2010, 10:46 AM

I hope it goes through, once the revenue is realized you'll see other states follow suit, not to mention other countries. I'd finally be able to open up a legit business growing, and be one happy camper.

linvillegorge · 10-19-2010, 11:14 AM

Straw that broke the camel's back for me.

Obama Administration = Epic FAIL

Obama Administration Steps Up Opposition to Prop. 19 - California Healthline

**killclimbz** · 10-19-2010, 11:29 AM

Last I checked it looks like it's going to pass. Of course the old guard is going to be against it. Too bad they don't really have much in the way of resources to fight it minus a court challenge. Something that the Feds may be reluctant to do with all the recent battles on State vs Federal rights.

Once Cali legalizes it other states will follow. The landscape is going to be much different in 10 years. Hell even 5 years down the road you'll see a lot of states on this bandwagon. Of course Cali still has to pass it first.

linvillegorge · 10-19-2010, 11:36 AM

I agree. I'm just very disappointed that the Obama administration is poised to fight this tooth and nail. Pretty much my only hopes for this administration were increased focus on renewable energy and a soft stance on marijuana. So far, I've been disappointed on both fronts.

I hope this passes and I hope other states follow suit. The Great Depression helped repeal Prohibition and my one glimmer of hope for "The Great Recession" is that it will help end the war on marijuana.

JeffreyCH · 10-19-2010, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Holder

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder noted that the Department of Justice "strongly opposes Proposition 19," which would legalize marijuana in California. He wrote, "If passed, this legislation will greatly complicate federal drug enforcement efforts to the detriment of our citizens."

I always find it funny how these asshats are so concerned about our well being. If the citizens of California vote this in then who do the feds think they are just to over ride that? So we can only vote on things at a state level that the fed deems non-detrimental? Very democratic!!! So yeah, go vote, like it really matters anyway, the fed will do whatever it wants any way. Who am I to say, I'm just one of millions of idiots funding all this non-sense, my opinion means less then fly shit, apparently a states majority means about the same.

Edit: I typed that while smoking a fucking cigarette....really great for me, and even better for the feds that clipped me for 2-3 bucks this morning buying the nasty damn things that I can't shake.

**killclimbz** · 10-19-2010, 11:59 AM

Well the Feds won't be able to just say they can't do it. It'll be a classic case of State vs Federal rights.

On these types of cases it comes down to which offers the "citizen more protection?" The feds will argue that it makes it less safe for other states and within the state of California. California will argue that the marijuana drug trade will be licensed and monitored. Plus you won't have citizens going to jail for using it. It'll be up to the courts to decide who offers greater protection.

Though again, I can also see the Feds having a lot of bark but not really wanting to bite into this issue. This is a case where if they lost, it would open the flood gates on them. Not sure if they want that.

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10-17-2010, 04:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	There's many many powers opposing this effort. And all of them are about money. Alcohol, pharmaceuticals, DOJ, DEA. All of these companies and organizations make money from pot being illegal.

10-18-2010, 01:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
KIRKRIDER Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,212	voted yesterday. Do it!

10-19-2010, 11:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,496	Straw that broke the camel's back for me. Obama Administration = Epic FAIL Obama Administration Steps Up Opposition to Prop. 19 - California Healthline

10-19-2010, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,170	Last I checked it looks like it's going to pass. Of course the old guard is going to be against it. Too bad they don't really have much in the way of resources to fight it minus a court challenge. Something that the Feds may be reluctant to do with all the recent battles on State vs Federal rights. Once Cali legalizes it other states will follow. The landscape is going to be much different in 10 years. Hell even 5 years down the road you'll see a lot of states on this bandwagon. Of course Cali still has to pass it first.

10-19-2010, 11:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,496	I agree. I'm just very disappointed that the Obama administration is poised to fight this tooth and nail. Pretty much my only hopes for this administration were increased focus on renewable energy and a soft stance on marijuana. So far, I've been disappointed on both fronts. I hope this passes and I hope other states follow suit. The Great Depression helped repeal Prohibition and my one glimmer of hope for "The Great Recession" is that it will help end the war on marijuana.

10-19-2010, 11:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,170	Well the Feds won't be able to just say they can't do it. It'll be a classic case of State vs Federal rights. On these types of cases it comes down to which offers the "citizen more protection?" The feds will argue that it makes it less safe for other states and within the state of California. California will argue that the marijuana drug trade will be licensed and monitored. Plus you won't have citizens going to jail for using it. It'll be up to the courts to decide who offers greater protection. Though again, I can also see the Feds having a lot of bark but not really wanting to bite into this issue. This is a case where if they lost, it would open the flood gates on them. Not sure if they want that.