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Somewhat amusing that North Korea has a more progressive military than the US....

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hey guys. don't make fun of the dear leader. did you know that he regularly gets 4 or 5 holes in one every time he plays golf? no joke
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Dude, forget Bioshock, you don't even need to play a videogame to go back in time, just go to N. Korea

Oh, and in case you didn't know the Dear Leader is also the Forever Reining Champion of Starcraft.

and Ju-jutsu

probably Hungry-Hungry-Hippo's too.

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lets not pretend this wasn't provoked by south korea after repeated warnings
Whoa whoa buddy... nothing was provoked. As a South Korean president, how to you provide aide to your enemy after they sunk and killed 46 soldiers on one of your ships? Even then, the president still provided some aide.

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he's being sarcastic.
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^I was to an extend yes, but I try to be objective and follow the issues as they evolve. Let me be clear I'm not rooting for the crazy north.

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Whoa whoa buddy... nothing was provoked. As a South Korean president, how to you provide aide to your enemy after they sunk and killed 46 soldiers on one of your ships? Even then, the president still provided some aide.
North Korea blames the south for driving them "to the bring of war". The provocation being the live-fire military drill near the disputed maritime border that they had repeatedly warned the South not to go ahead with. Moreover, Pyongyang has accused the south of bolstering their military ties with the US as a precursor to invasion.

None of this should come as a surprise as on august 3, 2010, N.Korea had vowed to launch an attack to thwart any proposed S.Korean Naval drills.

Whats absolutely fascinating is the call by Obama/US (as well as UN, China etc) for peace and restraint in the Korean peninsula, while at the same time agreeing to hold more joint military exercises in response to the Norths.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with the above response as the ball was clearly in the South/US's court, and their options were limited to a full retaliatory attack, to do nothing, or to continue and strengthen their military drills to show resolve. I feel this to be the appropriate measure.

I take no sides, I just look at the facts that while everyone is trying to "maintain peace and show restraint", you have the south/us fanning the fires with live-fire military drills in disputed borders. The north has denied the attacks on the submarine and has called for a new inquiry with their support and involvement, so as far as I'm concerned this issue is still unresolved. I don't take the North as one to not take credit where credit is due.

edit: Also, I think the drills were a response to the revelations of the north's uranium enrichment program to a US nuclear scientist, while the artillery attack was an attempt to bring everyone back to the negotiation table. Politics I tell you

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I don't take the North as one to not take credit where credit is due.
Understood with the rest of your statement except this one...

The North is known for their crazy and outlandish lies. They are not above denying an attack on a naval ship. What is their joint inquiry going to do? They will only bend the facts. That ship was sunk by the North... period. It's not coincidental that it happened on the north/south naval borders.

North Korea has a history of engaging in these types of attacks when it wants attention from the U.S./UN. Right now, they are fighting for aide. Stupid.

All things considered, the North is bad without a doubt. Kim Jong Il treats his people like slaves. Now he's attacking civilians killing two so far. Guess that's how hole in one golfers rule a country.

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Point taken and I agree. I remember a documentary I watched where it showed all these signs and graffiti that had sprouted up around north korea from people crying for help and declaring the ruthlessness of the state. Its very sad and these people and their struggles are unfortunately often forgotten

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If you want a clear vision of 1984, I think North Korea comes pretty close.

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Point taken and I agree. I remember a documentary I watched where it showed all these signs and graffiti that had sprouted up around north korea from people crying for help and declaring the ruthlessness of the state. Its very sad and these people and their struggles are unfortunately often forgotten
Yea, it sucks for sure. I feel very bad for the people of the North. My parents know families that got separated from their loved ones after the war. My father was in the South's military and was born during the war. He's been involved in a few fire fights. Light-hearted side note: he was shot in his right big toe :P

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