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munky is just being contrary like usual and he knows exactly what I mean.
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I think Noam Chomsky was pretty spot on when he said back in 2001 that the United States was the world's all time leading state sponsor of terrorism. It caused an outrage at the time, but the more you peel back the layers of the onion, the more it appears to be true.

"Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it."
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well..just read the last 50 years of history...Facts speak for themselves.

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You guys do realize that the one who ordered the party was the private contractor, or in other words a private corporation who is paid by the government for their services. The corporation can do whatever they want with the money as long as they deliver whatever the service is. While your tax-dollars did fund this, the government did not "order" this and the liability remains in the corporations hand.

My point is if you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at the private corporation. Of course if they aren't prosecuted by the government for this, then the government is just as liable for blame.

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Of course. The point is not that the crime happens, but that it happens under US laws! Or lack of them as a concession to that corporation from the USA.
But again so goes the world, it's just that now we all know about it, in real time.

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how about be pissed at the gov't for outsourcing military operations to private corporations. of course, the only reason then even do that is as a loophole to get around international treaties and rules that military's are held to while these contractors arent
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how about be pissed at the gov't for outsourcing military operations to private corporations. of course, the only reason then even do that is as a loophole to get around international treaties and rules that military's are held to while these contractors arent
And that's the big problem. Corporations have way too much power, and they have the ability to manipulate government into letting them do whatever they want because tons of senate and congress positions are also chairmen/CEO's/Board Members of huge corporations.

Conflict of interest much?

On the flip side, I would be stoked if Wikileaks keeps releasing Private Corporation scandals. Right now they think they are invincible and can buy anyone's mouth, let's tell them they are wrong, we are watching, and their days of tyranny are over.

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Yes but then what happens to them? When the Supreme Court rules in their favor BECAUSE they are on their paybook? I haven't seen a single individual from BP in jail yet. But I'm sure that if I blow up a gas station by mistake and kill a dozen people in the process I would be in jail the same night.

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Obviously this would require a major flush of government corruption, something that is terribly hard to do because people are so easily bought, not to mention many are actually directly working for corporations. Unfortunetly with really any country, those who have the money gain the power to turn lies into truth and truth into lies.

At this point in time I honestly don't know how we would overcome the "Bourgeois", revolution comes to mind but the problem is that as a country we have never been more divided between ourselves. There is also the added complexity that in past history, revolutions were aimed at a government because the government and only the government was in charge of whatever was disagreeable. Here the corporations are playing the job of the puppeteer, and the government is their puppet. They are confusing the simple minded into blaming the government, which is in reality simply a duel-personality for the corporation.

In other words, they can puppet people into throwing a revolution vs. the current government, but afterwards the corporations are still there, and they are still in control of the new government.

The average American's intelligence and perception has dropped so dramatically that the majority of the population can be puppeted into whatever the corporations want. Fact is, when you have a revolution, majority wins, and if the majority is a bunch of morons, you can't win.

Scary 1984 Shit man.

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