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snowjeeper · 12-20-2010, 09:37 PM

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Their phone lines are closed for the evening so I recommend the fax: Tell FCC Commissioner Copps via our free fax service: Be a hero and save the Internet

This is one of the more important issues that will impact all of us every day. Don't let the lobbyists and the corporate telecomms fuck up the internet.

MunkySpunk · 12-20-2010, 09:52 PM

What are you saying? Do you mean if we we just debate it here and bitch endlessly about how typical it is of corporate America it won't change a thing?

Next thing you're gonna tell me that changing my Facebook picture to a big mac won't end world hunger.

InfiniteEclipse · 12-20-2010, 10:06 PM

sure it will, you just have to believe

think of 4chan... all they do is bitch and getter done

Muki · 12-21-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteEclipse

sure it will, you just have to believe

think of 4chan... all they do is bitch and getter done

hahah yes!

snowjeeper · 12-21-2010, 07:41 AM

yeah except people on 4chan actually do stuff irl about things. usually worthless shitty things, but they do it.

MunkySpunk · 12-21-2010, 08:30 AM

Just remember, you guys asked for it.

Timothy Karr: Obama FCC Caves on Net Neutrality -- Tuesday Betrayal Assured

Al Franken: The Most Important Free Speech Issue of Our Time

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The good news is that the Federal Communications Commission has the power to issue regulations that protect net neutrality. The bad news is that draft regulations written by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski don't do that at all. They're worse than nothing.

Mobile networks like AT&T and Verizon Wireless would be able to shut off your access to content or applications for any reason. For instance, Verizon could prevent you from accessing Google Maps on your phone, forcing you to use their own mapping program, Verizon Navigator, even if it costs money to use and isn't nearly as good. Or a mobile provider with a political agenda could prevent you from downloading an app that connects you with the Obama campaign (or, for that matter, a Tea Party group in your area).

It gets worse. The FCC has never before explicitly allowed discrimination on the Internet -- but the draft Order takes a step backwards, merely stating that so-called "paid prioritization" (the creation of a "fast lane" for big corporations who can afford to pay for it) is cause for concern.

It sure is -- but that's exactly why the FCC should ban it. Instead, the draft Order would have the effect of actually relaxing restrictions on this kind of discrimination.

And that's if it gets passed. Have fun with your smartphones while they're still smart.

InfiniteEclipse · 12-21-2010, 09:58 AM

You guys better get interneting while you have the time

snowjeeper · 12-21-2010, 10:23 AM

you know what, fuck smartphones. i'm tired of paying ridiculous amounts for the small convience they provide. My contract is up end of this month and I'll be cancelling my service with ATT. I've paid over 2k during the contract period for it. That's like a fucking car right there.

MunkySpunk · 12-21-2010, 10:49 AM

Call your congressman, tell him to get on the FCC's case. Tell them you want this thing enacted. Tell them you will NOT bow down to sense and reason!!!

snowjeeper · 12-21-2010, 04:04 PM

If you saw my op-ed in the Huffington Post yesterday, you know how concerned I was about today's FCC meeting on net neutrality (and, by the way, would you mind sharing it on Twitter and Facebook?).

Chairman Genachowski's draft Order was worse than nothing--and we needed to make sure the FCC didn't approve it today.

Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that, thanks to Commissioners Copps and Clyburn--not to mention a nationwide network of net neutrality activists like you--the proposal approved today is better than the original. For instance, the FCC has now stated that it does not condone discriminatory behavior by wireless companies like Verizon and AT&T--an important piece that was missing from the first draft. We made a difference.

The bad news is that, while it's no longer worse than nothing, the Order approved today is not nearly strong enough to protect consumers or preserve the free and open Internet. And with so much at stake, I cannot support it.

I'm still very concerned that it includes almost nothing to protect net neutrality for mobile broadband service--often the only choice for broadband if you live in rural or otherwise underserved areas. And I'm particularly disappointed that the FCC isn't specifically banning paid prioritization--the creation of an Internet "fast lane" for corporations that can afford to pay for it.

But here's the important thing to remember: This fight's not over. The FCC must vigorously enforce these new regulations--and it must follow through on addressing wireless discrimination going forward.

So what now? First, we need to work together to make sure the FCC keeps the promises it made today--just as our movement was instrumental in improving these regulations from the first draft, we'll be critical in ensuring that the regulations are enforced vigorously.

And I'm going to keep working with net neutrality advocates to see if there are legislative or administrative steps that can be taken to strengthen these protections.

But, for today, know that the work we're doing to save the Internet is making a difference. Today, the FCC took a small step forward--too small by my estimation, but forward nonetheless.

Thanks for your support,
Al Franken

12-20-2010, 09:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	seriously act now! Washington's Blog Their phone lines are closed for the evening so I recommend the fax: Tell FCC Commissioner Copps via our free fax service: Be a hero and save the Internet This is one of the more important issues that will impact all of us every day. Don't let the lobbyists and the corporate telecomms fuck up the internet.

12-20-2010, 09:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
MunkySpunk -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Berkshires Posts: 3,212	What are you saying? Do you mean if we we just debate it here and bitch endlessly about how typical it is of corporate America it won't change a thing? Next thing you're gonna tell me that changing my Facebook picture to a big mac won't end world hunger. __________________ "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." 10/11 - 24, Smote on Feb 13

12-20-2010, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
InfiniteEclipse Stay Strapped Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,116	sure it will, you just have to believe think of 4chan... all they do is bitch and getter done __________________ Did she say Strap-in or Strap-on?

12-21-2010, 09:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
InfiniteEclipse Stay Strapped Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,116	You guys better get interneting while you have the time __________________ Did she say Strap-in or Strap-on?

12-21-2010, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
MunkySpunk -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Berkshires Posts: 3,212	Call your congressman, tell him to get on the FCC's case. Tell them you want this thing enacted. Tell them you will NOT bow down to sense and reason!!! __________________ "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." 10/11 - 24, Smote on Feb 13

12-21-2010, 07:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	yeah except people on 4chan actually do stuff irl about things. usually worthless shitty things, but they do it.

12-21-2010, 10:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	you know what, fuck smartphones. i'm tired of paying ridiculous amounts for the small convience they provide. My contract is up end of this month and I'll be cancelling my service with ATT. I've paid over 2k during the contract period for it. That's like a fucking car right there.

12-21-2010, 04:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
snowjeeper Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1,922	If you saw my op-ed in the Huffington Post yesterday, you know how concerned I was about today's FCC meeting on net neutrality (and, by the way, would you mind sharing it on Twitter and Facebook?). Chairman Genachowski's draft Order was worse than nothing--and we needed to make sure the FCC didn't approve it today. Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that, thanks to Commissioners Copps and Clyburn--not to mention a nationwide network of net neutrality activists like you--the proposal approved today is better than the original. For instance, the FCC has now stated that it does not condone discriminatory behavior by wireless companies like Verizon and AT&T--an important piece that was missing from the first draft. We made a difference. The bad news is that, while it's no longer worse than nothing, the Order approved today is not nearly strong enough to protect consumers or preserve the free and open Internet. And with so much at stake, I cannot support it. I'm still very concerned that it includes almost nothing to protect net neutrality for mobile broadband service--often the only choice for broadband if you live in rural or otherwise underserved areas. And I'm particularly disappointed that the FCC isn't specifically banning paid prioritization--the creation of an Internet "fast lane" for corporations that can afford to pay for it. But here's the important thing to remember: This fight's not over. The FCC must vigorously enforce these new regulations--and it must follow through on addressing wireless discrimination going forward. So what now? First, we need to work together to make sure the FCC keeps the promises it made today--just as our movement was instrumental in improving these regulations from the first draft, we'll be critical in ensuring that the regulations are enforced vigorously. And I'm going to keep working with net neutrality advocates to see if there are legislative or administrative steps that can be taken to strengthen these protections. But, for today, know that the work we're doing to save the Internet is making a difference. Today, the FCC took a small step forward--too small by my estimation, but forward nonetheless. Thanks for your support, Al Franken

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