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Old 02-10-2011, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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decided to make this thread and put it in political discussion because it has a greater point than just sports. these NFL owners are greedy beyond belief and its sticking in my crawl and I need to vent.

these fucking assholes make more money than they could possibly count or spend in ten lifetimes. they get taxpayers to pay for their stadiums. NFL players get the worst deal by far of any professional sports league. yet they play in the most profitable sports league in the history of the world. and here are the owners threatening to lock out the players because they claim they "don't have a healthy business model". excuse me but how fucking dumb do you think we are? they refuse to release their business information. it is estimated that the average NFL team makes 30 million dollars in profit each season. now they want NFL players to take a pay cut? they already don't have guaranteed contracts and they play the most dangerous sport in our nation. they are nearly crippled by their mid 30's and live shortened lives because of their jobs. they already make pebbles compared to the NBA and MLB (which have stronger players unions).

someone tell the fucking owners that nobody comes to see them. the players are the stars and without them the owners don''t make a single fucking penny. this goes into more that sports. this is a microchosm of our entire economy. the owners reaping the profits they make on the backs of the laborers. it needs to stop. this type of thing really bugs me because I've dedicated my life to studying labor relations and collective bargaining and its so easy for me to see through the owners and the NFL's bullshit. I feel like most people are having a harder time seeing this and none of the sports reporters on papers or espn have the balls to call them out on it.

I know people have a hard time empathizing with millionaire pro athletes but you gotta put that aside for a second and look at the numbers and facts. the players are the ones who deserve the lion's share of the money that the league generates. the owners are risking taking the most successful and profitable cash cow of a money league in the history of the world and throwing away a season because they only make 30 million in profits directly from the league each year. gimme a fucking break. you already have a hard salary cap, non guaranteed contracts, free taxpayer funded stadiums to play in, and the most profits of any sports league ever. when is enough enough? fucking assholes. this is just like wall street and all the other sectors of the economy. the players represent the middle class and average joes in this situation just like you and me. getting screwed by the ruling class.

every year more and more money gets funneled into fewer and fewer hands at the top. our ruling class is on a never ending mission to destroy the middle class and make us all their slaves. this is just another example . americans need to wake the fuck up and start defending themselves against our evil greedy bastard overlords.
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's simple, football players go on strike. No football teams playing, no profit, no commercial revenue, loss of fan base, etc etc

It is kind of a ridiculous thought because it's not like any major league football players are financially hurting, but that would be the only way to change the higher-ups attitudes. Rich assholes are rather good at becoming progressively more of rich assholes, until someone crumbles everything they have their money invested in. It's not that hard, its just a matter of people standing together, (like labor unions)
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I see it as the poor little millionaires are getting it stuck to them by the billionaires. Life is so tough...
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I don't feel one bit sorry for the superstar millionaire players and the billionaire owners and that's really where the beef is coming from. The majority of the people involved are going to get caught in the crossfire between these two groups - the practice squad players, the guys who bounce from roster to roster because they're marginal pro players, the minor assistant coaches, the trainers, the equipment people, stadium workers and so on and so on. These are the people who stand to be truly impacted if there's a work stoppage. The multi-millionaires and billionaires will be just fine regardless. At some point, money is just a way of keeping score.
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I know people don't weep for the players. and you shouldn't. but people have to realize that the threat that is looming is an owner LOCKOUT. not a union strike. people will have trouble realizing that difference. the players just want to keep things the way they are. it is the owners that are telling them "either you take a giant pay cut or we won't have a season next year".
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And what is the root of these evil overpaid NFL owners? Americans' disturbing obsession with sports. People love to spend money on tickets, jerseys, cheese hats, and other stupid shit but they bitch and moan about paying taxes that go to healthcare. Kids whose parents waste thousands of dollars to put them through a decent university are more concerned with their fantasy football team than going to class. And god forbid anyone NOT watch the superbowl for once in their life, contributing to the millions the NFL receives due to the amount of money advertisers are willing to spend simply because they can guarantee a sickening number of people are going to be watching it. Americans have created this monster, owners are just getting theirs.
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Without knowing anything about pro sports in the US (although I do like watching your footy) I agree with you in relation to this instance provided you have the numbers correct. I don't necessarily agree that the same situation extends to the wider economy. The guy who puts up the capital and takes the risk deserves his return on that capital in my opinion. If there's no return then he will just stick it in a term deposit and the workers get to look for another job.

Back to the NFL, I'm surprised that the teams would be so profitable, they seem to have a thousand players each and I'm pretty sure that they would be paying good rentals on those free stadiums. What is the total budget that is yielding this $30M profit? What does a footy franchise cost over there? $30M wouldn't go as far as you might think if you had a blowout in wages because there are soooooo many staff involved.

I think I have contradicted my self already so I better stop. I guess my question is, does the profit generated by one of these teams really exceed what would be expected from another similar investment?
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the NFL is the most profitable sports league in the history of the world.
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I don't necessarily agree that the same situation extends to the wider economy.
you can see it everywhere. cutting labor costs. making people do the work of 3 or 4 people for the salary of one. its why the economy has recovered yet there are no jobs. because that money has been funneled to the top. the executives are making more and more and more every year. Living in Park City you see this first hand. the obscenely rich ruling class in this country control more and more of the wealth of the nation each and every passing day. executive salaries keep growing exponentially while middle class wages have been stagnant since the late 70's.
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I know people don't weep for the players. and you shouldn't. but people have to realize that the threat that is looming is an owner LOCKOUT. not a union strike. people will have trouble realizing that difference. the players just want to keep things the way they are. it is the owners that are telling them "either you take a giant pay cut or we won't have a season next year".
You do realize this is a big bluff right? Theres no way the owners wouldn't have a season, all their money is invested into the fact that their team plays.
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