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snowvols 11-11-2011 04:56 PM

Man charged with manslaughter after avalanche kills wife
 
I don't know if this should be in Politics or BC section but I figured this gets more traffic.

Austrian skier found guilty after avalanche fatality - ESPN

Personally, I feel this is totally screwed up. Neither wear beeping at the time, but they had them in their packs. I know personally whenever I get out of my car first thing I do is switch it on and then run a test if I am with people. Thoughts?

JeffreyCH 11-11-2011 05:04 PM

Well, people kill their spouse's everyday ;) Seems to me like a pretty good way to do it "3 month suspension" lol

CheeseForSteeze 11-11-2011 05:06 PM

How much difference do avy beacons really make, anyway? Real avalanche safety is about training, research and careful decisions; the beacons are just a small part of that. Was it negligent? Most surely. Is it tragic? Of course. But to charge him with homicide seems like insult on top of injury. The man's wife just died.

snowvols 11-11-2011 05:12 PM

Without your beacon chance of not finding your body until Spring thaw goes up tremendously. SAR and your partners can at least recover the body without putting them in jeopardy which doing a pole line jeopardizes everyone in it from another slide. OF course a beacon won't prevent an avalanche only way to prevent an avalanche is not to even be on the slope. They were definitely fools for not beeping but I still feel for the guy since his wife was killed. You can stay alive on average they say 15 minutes under the snow if you are buried, but you would most likely have lost a ton a brain cells.

Extremo 11-11-2011 05:16 PM

This is pretty stupid. So the wife wasn't capable of making a calculated decision? There is no way this guy is responsible for his wife's choice to ski. Unless he pushed her off a cliff or set of some avalanche bombs after she made her descent...he should be exonerated. Imagine if this philosophy was applied to all forms of life.

Sick-Pow 11-11-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze (Post 437083)
How much difference do avy beacons really make, anyway? Real avalanche safety is about training, research and careful decisions; the beacons are just a small part of that. Was it negligent? Most surely. Is it tragic? Of course. But to charge him with homicide seems like insult on top of injury. The man's wife just died.


Not to pick on you, but your logic is flawed most likely from zero experience. Having a beacon is first to find others in your party, who also needs to have beacons. Then, if you happen to be taken and buried by a slide, people will have a easier time finding you. Probe and shovel is a given as well.

Most resorts over there have no boundaries and with access in plain view and easy lift access, you cannot let your guard down. Bad decisions. I think they were in France, with laws against this type of irresponsible behavior. Swissland and Italy do not have these type of laws, you are on your own for the most part leaving resort limits.

No one is above the law of the mtns.

earl_je 11-11-2011 05:42 PM

this is completely fucked up.. manslaughter seems a little too much for a tragic accident. I very hightly doubt this judgement will be the same stateside.

Milo303 11-11-2011 05:48 PM

As tragic as this is, I'm blown away that he was charged with anything at all.

This isn't a drunk driver who wrecks and kills his passenger....

It's a sober situation where a mistake was made, nature happened, and now he's charged with a serious offense.

Wow

ShredLife 11-11-2011 05:57 PM

this sets a really irresponsible precedent. if i was a guide there i would seriously consider moving.

uninc.mike 11-11-2011 07:39 PM

That's complete bs.


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