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snowjeeper 11-21-2011 01:37 PM

9%, what does it mean
 
Currently congress has a 9% approval rating. I don't think honestly that it makes much of a difference. People still like their incumbent senator and reps, so they keep on voting for them. It's "all those other guys" who are the problem.

Also, keep in mind is that this play is straight out of the starve the beast playbook. There's a reason why Republicans are driving the country straight into a hole, this is proving their point that government doesn't work.

Extremo 11-21-2011 07:11 PM

Their mantra has increasingly been "Infiltrate and Destroy". It's a sabotage, and you're either for it or against it, but we all suffer from it. All hail the oligarchs.

GreatScott 11-21-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Extremo (Post 441847)
Their mantra has increasingly been "Infiltrate and Destroy". It's a sabotage, and you're either for it or against it, but we all suffer from it. All hail the oligarchs.

You're on to a really good punk song. Keep writing, lol.

ThunderChunky 11-21-2011 07:17 PM

The only way anything is going to happen is if parties are eliminated. Everything is Democrat Vs. Republican. Not good vs. bad or good vs better. Someone could propose a bill for mass suicide and if it was party affiliated then people would stand by it. Politics are stupid, leave it be, or do something about it.

Politics make my dome hurt.

2hipp4u 11-21-2011 11:34 PM

Constitutional Amendment to stop all lobbying and intitute term limits, along with elections funded by the public. If you get rid of the money you will get a more honest congress. It won't solve all the problems but it would be a good start.

snowjeeper 11-22-2011 02:00 PM

I think that if two things were to happen things would improve dramatically. one would be all elections are publicly financed. the next would be making it illegal to donate, give gifts to, or anything else of the sort to politicians in any level of office.

snowjeeper 11-22-2011 02:41 PM

a note about term limits - the problem with that is the bureaucracy ends up becoming more powerful at that point. Because the politicians are expendable, employees in the public sector know that they'll ultimately out-last their "boss". Then you have lots of waste as the new people try to get up to speed. I'm not saying I support life time members of congress, but term limits aren't as simple as it seems.

Extremo 11-22-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderChunky (Post 441854)
The only way anything is going to happen is if parties are eliminated. Everything is Democrat Vs. Republican. Not good vs. bad or good vs better. Someone could propose a bill for mass suicide and if it was party affiliated then people would stand by it. Politics are stupid, leave it be, or do something about it.

Politics make my dome hurt.

The democratic party should be eliminated? The party that stands for economic equality, civil rights, and high rates of quality education and health care? Yeah those are horrible ideals. Get rid of the bums.

Seriously the opposite of greed and ignorance is liberalism, and liberals occupy the democratic party. But they should occupy the entire government.

AWNOW 11-22-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Extremo (Post 442374)
The democratic party should be eliminated? The party that stands for economic equality, civil rights, and high rates of quality education and health care? Yeah those are horrible ideals. Get rid of the bums.

Seriously the opposite of greed and ignorance is liberalism, and liberals occupy the democratic party. But they should occupy the entire government.

Absolutely. The two party system, like that poster said, is destroying America. His point was people see themselves as a party member and take offense at anything proposed by the other party, instead of carefully thinking it through. The world is not black and white and it never will be, we need a system that operates accordingly. The sooner we can add more legitimate parties or simply not recognize someone as a democrat/rep even though they share our ideals, the better. It is a system for control. That is why republicans think the democrats are the ones that ruined the economy - they have believed talking points of the very people that put us into this mess and try to attack the opposing party.

Divide and conquer works. Effectively.

Extremo 11-22-2011 06:11 PM

What??? The country has moved so far to the right everyone should be voting for democrats. Being democrat is pretty much a declaration for not being bat shit crazy.


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