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Old 08-01-2012, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So, If you haven't heard, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy made a public statement about his opposition to same-sex marriage and ideals of running his business and America using "Christian Values".

I find this action pretty astounding considering Corporate America's reluctance to side with anything - should they anger a demographic and loose business.

Since then, there has been general outrage towards Chick-fil-A, but also a slew of supporters flocking to the fast-food restaurant chain in support of Christian ideological takeover.

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Throngs of people weighed in on the Chick-fil-A debate at stores across the United States on Wednesday, buying chicken sandwiches to show their support for the restaurant chain and its president's opposition to same-sex marriage.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee dubbed it "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day."
He called for a vocal response to the backlash against the fast food restaurants and their president.
Chick-fil-A restaurants become rallying points for supporters - CNN.com

Is it just me, or is this the most ridiculous, hilarious shit you have ever heard? I find it fairly interesting to see that people who would actually "defend" a fast-food chain would also be fundamentalist Christians...

You can put two and two together to see the demographic that consumes the most fast-food and suffers from the "obesity epidemic"...

The more I hear about shit like this the more I think this country is doomed and the closer I am to moving elsewhere...
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think that it's ironic that the people who most want to deny rights to homosexuals are the very same people who are most loud and proud about America being all about freedom and liberty.

They're also called rednecks.

Right wing nutjobs are basically just about shoving their beliefs down the throats of others. If you agree with them, yay America! If you don't agree with them, they rant and rave about freedom and tell you to love it or leave it. Quite the double standard.
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Right wing nutjobs are basically just about shoving their beliefs down the throats of others. If you agree with them, yay America! If you don't agree with them, they rant and rave about freedom and tell you to love it or leave it. Quite the double standard.

This whole thing is blown out of proportion. CfA has been an outspoken advocate of Christian values since the company was founded, so it's not like this is some great new revelation that they believe in the traditional definition of marriage. The CEO was asked, by a Baptist publication for that matter, for a comment on marriage and he gave his opinion. Someone ran with it in the media and created an issue out of something that was already known to most people.

Personally, I don't believe homosexual couples should receive any different treatment than heterosexual couples. I believe the definition of marriage should still be "man and woman", but I believe that any tax break or incentive to be "married" should be available to either couple.

However, the thought that public officials in Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago have stated they will block any attempt for CfA to start a business within their cities screams of religious discrimination, which is exactly what all of the "right wing redneck nutjobs" are upset about.
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I wonder what does selling burgers has to do with marriage......?
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This whole thing is blown out of proportion. CfA has been an outspoken advocate of Christian values since the company was founded, so it's not like this is some great new revelation that they believe in the traditional definition of marriage. The CEO was asked, by a Baptist publication for that matter, for a comment on marriage and he gave his opinion. Someone ran with it in the media and created an issue out of something that was already known to most people.

Personally, I don't believe homosexual couples should receive any different treatment than heterosexual couples. I believe the definition of marriage should still be "man and woman", but I believe that any tax break or incentive to be "married" should be available to either couple.

However, the thought that public officials in Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago have stated they will block any attempt for CfA to start a business within their cities screams of religious discrimination, which is exactly what all of the "right wing redneck nutjobs" are upset about.
So religious groups should be free to push for discriminatory legislation? Their right to religious freedom gives them the right to force that religion through legislation?

Personally, I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. As far as the government and benefits are concerned, everything should be a civil union.

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can't really say I disagree with you, I think both sides should equal rights, and honestly, the government shouldn't be involved.

As far as religious groups pushing legislation, I disagree with that as well. I don't think religious groups should get tax exempt statuses either.

I was just making the point that a privately owned, Christian organization stated it's belief to a decidedly Christian publication, and people expected a different answer than the CEO gave? Really? Why is this even an issue? If people don't agree with CfA's stance on marriage they just shouldn't shop there. Simple as that.

I'm in complete agreement with just making everything a civil union that involves no government interaction and people dont' talk about it. What you do in your bedroom is your business and IMO isn't something anyone should have the right to judge
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This whole thing is blown out of proportion. CfA has been an outspoken advocate of Christian values since the company was founded, so it's not like this is some great new revelation that they believe in the traditional definition of marriage. The CEO was asked, by a Baptist publication for that matter, for a comment on marriage and he gave his opinion. Someone ran with it in the media and created an issue out of something that was already known to most people.

Personally, I don't believe homosexual couples should receive any different treatment than heterosexual couples. I believe the definition of marriage should still be "man and woman", but I believe that any tax break or incentive to be "married" should be available to either couple.

However, the thought that public officials in Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago have stated they will block any attempt for CfA to start a business within their cities screams of religious discrimination, which is exactly what all of the "right wing redneck nutjobs" are upset about.
I agree mostly with what you wrote. I personally believe marriage is between a man and a woman. That's how families are made.

But if a guy wants to marry a guy, or a girl wants to marry a girl, go for it. It does not affect my marriage or family one bit. I really don't give a shit what someone else does.

Govt. should get the fuck out of marriage. I don't even know why it's in it.
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I wonder what does selling burgers has to do with marriage......?
First off, they're not burgers, they're chicken sandwiches . Secondly, I think what hasn't been mentioned, and the main reason people are pissed off about Chick-fil-a is the fact that the corporation donates somewhere in the neighborhood $3 million annually to campaign against gay marriage. If that's how Chick-fil-a chooses to spend their money, that's fine, but I wont' be spending mine with them, that's for damn sure. If a business owner wants to get involved in controversial political matters then he should be ready to deal with the consequences. Smart business owners don't talk about religion and politics publicly.
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personally, i don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. As far as the government and benefits are concerned, everything should be a civil union.
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I actually had a different viewpoint. Do I agree with what he said? No. But I was actually impressed that a CEO would come out and vocalize his viewpoints, versus act a certain way in public, and behind closed doors, act a completely different way.

I guess it was refreshing to see someone be 100% upfront with their views in his position.

And regarding his statement, it was blown way out of proportion. He is an old school southern christian who doesn't support gay marriage. Doesn't mean he is a bigot - means he has interpreted the bible to it's fullest meaning, which like it or not, states pretty clearly that marriage is the union between a man and woman. Do I believe that? No. But some people are very tied to structural religion still.

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The right wing nut job comment. Since when does religion determine your party line?

So since every nut job in Hollywood is a Democrat, and they LOVE Scientology, is it fair to say all Democrats are whackjobs that worship a fucking alien?

My biggest problem with the Democratic party, is that they have attempted to make their party all about SOCIAL issues, which in fact are determined by society over time, as social norms change. At the end of the day, our societies ideologies will be reflected in law, not the other way around.

It's a shame that the Libertarian party can't get off the ground, because I can honestly say that half my friends who are Democrats would switch parties instantly - because the only reason they vote for Obama is the fear that the Democratic media shoves down their throats about gay rights, rights to abortions, etc with regard to the Republican party, and they buy in. Guess what - those are NON ISSUES. They will reflect the majority view of society, and only then will they change, if ever.

It'd be nice if people in this country would vote for issues that matter, such as our fucking economy, tax laws (fuck we need a flat tax), our dogshit foreign policy, etc.

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