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sabatoa · 10-04-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Donutz

Are you catholic? That's the official catholic stance.

I'm kinda different. I'm evangelical Christian (protestant) but not a crazy fundie.

I'm socially middle to left of center on most issues. I think we should legalize weed and decriminalize other drugs. I think we should either lower the drinking age to 18 or raise the right to vote and fight for our country to 21, it's crap a guy can't legally get blitzed the night before we expect him to lay his life on the line in battle.

I don't think we should have prayer in schools. I believe in the separation of church and state.

I'm a Ron Paul fanboy. lol

KIRKRIDER · 10-04-2012, 11:43 AM

Religion. Slowing down human evolution for the sake of it since...Since the first "preacher" figured out that he could get away with it.

EVOLVE? It's about time. There's no deity caring about what you did. Relax.

tylerkat89 · 10-04-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER

Religion. Slowing down human evolution for the sake of it since...Since the first "preacher" figured out that he could get away with it.

EVOLVE? It's about time. There's no deity caring about what you did. Relax.

I don't think my prior statement of hoping for people to evolve is so uncalled for now hah

backstop13 · 10-04-2012, 12:35 PM

I'm with Sabatoa on this one.

I believe in the Bible and God and Jesus and all that good stuff, but I don't believe everthing in the Bible is to be taken literally. As Joe Rogan accurately points out, many of these stories were passed down verbally for hundreds if not thousands of years before pen was put to paper. There's bound to be some inconsistencies in a story any time verbal communication is used.

I don't believe the earth was created literally in 7 days. Hell, it could have taken 7 billion years for all we know. I believe that God shaped the world through evolution, by basically building the world so that evolution and adaptation could take place naturally. I honestly think teaching creationism in school is dangerous, among many of the other things that the "church" pushes on society.

I don't really fall into any denomination either, because I disagree with church. The idea of everyone cramming into a room to worship God and giving a bunch of money to a tax-free institution so they can buy corporate jets and big McMansions isn't what the Bible is about. I don't wanna get on here and be preachy to everyone, but being a Christian means being "Christ like". That means loving your neighbor despite their: sexual preference, monetary status, color of skin, etc.

My biggest question is, I look around and just how complicated everything in the world is, from the make up of the human body, to the natural ecosystems and the way everything seems to work together, and I can't see how that just coincidentally happened to all work out on it's own. I just can't see how something as complicated as the human body just happened to evolve over all that time to be essentially this super-efficient machine, without some sort of guiding hand. There's so many things left to chance that just perfectly worked out in our favor, that I find it hard to believe that it's all coincidence. I honestly don't know

tylerkat89 · 10-04-2012, 12:40 PM

Annunaki and Niburu ftw!

ShredLife · 10-04-2012, 12:54 PM

backstop and sabatoa - what about evolution? do you believe that humans and chimpanzees both evolved from a common ancestor?

not trying to "shut you guys up" but this is a powerful obsevation:

backstop13 · 10-04-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

backstop and sabatoa - what about evolution? do you believe that humans and chimpanzees both evolved from a common ancestor?

not trying to "shut you guys up" but this is a powerful obsevation:

i'll have to watch the video when i get home, because my work filters youtube (i know i know i need to get my ass to work and not debate religion on a snowboarding website

).

but to answer your question about evolution, I haven't really ever thought about that question, but my initial response would be, Yes. I think it's completely feasible for humans and chimpanzees to take different evolutionary paths if guided by some omnipotent being. As I said, I don't think God just snapped his finger and "poof" Adam showed up. I think evolution was a means to an end. At some point, million years ago, the common ancestor of humans and modern apes diverged. I think it's possible that when those lineages split, some higher power guided one to be human, while one became primate.

sabatoa · 10-04-2012, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShredLife

backstop and sabatoa - what about evolution? do you believe that humans and chimpanzees both evolved from a common ancestor?

not trying to "shut you guys up" but this is a powerful obsevation:

I'm open to the possibility. I'm not sold but I don't deny it either. I can't argue what backstop13 said.

Of interest to me are the neanderthals of Europe that were absorbed by the homo sapiens coming out of Africa, homo erectus and australopithecus.

If evolution isn't what happened then how do these guys fit in?

I'm not sure.

backstop13 · 10-04-2012, 01:35 PM

I have a serious, non-dick question for those who don't believe in a higher power, basically regarding my questions from a few posts up.

Do you guys ever look around at the complexities of everything around us, from the way the universe works, to our perfect distance from the sun for life to exist, to the gravitational pull of the moon which allows the tides to support that ecosystem, so on and so forth, down to the complexities of how living organisms work and wonder: "Man, how the fuck did all this shit just happen to work out?". I mean, it seems that even the most fragile changes or shifts in about anything cause problems that are beyond human control. I know there's lots of scientific theories out there to try and explain the coincidences, but do you guys ever think, "Holy fuck?"

ShredLife · 10-04-2012, 01:43 PM

naw, i think "science fuck"!

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backstop13 -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 517	I'm with Sabatoa on this one. I believe in the Bible and God and Jesus and all that good stuff, but I don't believe everthing in the Bible is to be taken literally. As Joe Rogan accurately points out, many of these stories were passed down verbally for hundreds if not thousands of years before pen was put to paper. There's bound to be some inconsistencies in a story any time verbal communication is used. I don't believe the earth was created literally in 7 days. Hell, it could have taken 7 billion years for all we know. I believe that God shaped the world through evolution, by basically building the world so that evolution and adaptation could take place naturally. I honestly think teaching creationism in school is dangerous, among many of the other things that the "church" pushes on society. I don't really fall into any denomination either, because I disagree with church. The idea of everyone cramming into a room to worship God and giving a bunch of money to a tax-free institution so they can buy corporate jets and big McMansions isn't what the Bible is about. I don't wanna get on here and be preachy to everyone, but being a Christian means being "Christ like". That means loving your neighbor despite their: sexual preference, monetary status, color of skin, etc. My biggest question is, I look around and just how complicated everything in the world is, from the make up of the human body, to the natural ecosystems and the way everything seems to work together, and I can't see how that just coincidentally happened to all work out on it's own. I just can't see how something as complicated as the human body just happened to evolve over all that time to be essentially this super-efficient machine, without some sort of guiding hand. There's so many things left to chance that just perfectly worked out in our favor, that I find it hard to believe that it's all coincidence. I honestly don't know

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tylerkat89 -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bear Mountain - Days Ridden: 20 Posts: 425	Annunaki and Niburu ftw!

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backstop13 -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 517	I have a serious, non-dick question for those who don't believe in a higher power, basically regarding my questions from a few posts up. Do you guys ever look around at the complexities of everything around us, from the way the universe works, to our perfect distance from the sun for life to exist, to the gravitational pull of the moon which allows the tides to support that ecosystem, so on and so forth, down to the complexities of how living organisms work and wonder: "Man, how the fuck did all this shit just happen to work out?". I mean, it seems that even the most fragile changes or shifts in about anything cause problems that are beyond human control. I know there's lots of scientific theories out there to try and explain the coincidences, but do you guys ever think, "Holy fuck?"