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Old 11-07-2012, 12:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
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But also for me the real problem is just the addictive qualities (cant say ive done it so i dont know how addictive it is) and going into corrections/drug abuse counseling, I can see what problems addictions can cause, and lives they can tear apart, even alcohol.

--This dude really thinks pot can tear families apart?? No dude, not even fuckin close. Alcohol, yes. Meth, yes. Coke, yes.. Weed?? That shit brings families closer together!!
To be fair, if one member of a spousal unit is super anti-pot and the other can't (or won't) quit then yeah, it causes problems.

I know of an exact example of this with someone I know.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:14 PM   #62 (permalink)
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nope. not even then.
Eh, lets be honest now. I do know a few people who need to have weed. When you are smoking 4 bowls a day or more for several years you can't just simply stop smoking. You are dependent on it and a restless mind sucks for them. It is a very extreme smoker, but they do exist and no harm is done in at least recognizing that there are some people out there that need weed to make it through the day.
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Eh, lets be honest now. I do know a few people who need to have weed. When you are smoking 4 bowls a day or more for several years you can't just simply stop smoking. You are dependent on it and a restless mind sucks for them. It is a very extreme smoker, but they do exist and no harm is done in at least recognizing that there are some people out there that need weed to make it through the day.
Yeah, some people just have addictive personalities. My brother in law is unwilling or unable to stop smoking, claims he tried/trying.
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It is a mental addiction though. Take it away from them and sure they'll want it. Do they have violent reactions? Well maybe if they rob a bank to get money to buy weed.

Alcohol is legal and it has it's problems. At least you are not supporting Cartels, organized crime by buying alcohol. You are also not a criminal for doing so.

Seems fair enough to me for MJ to be treated the same. Get the criminal element out of there. It ain't going to be perfect, but it's better than what we are wasting on regulating it as an illegal drug.
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Also, pretty please with soogar on top, lets knock off the personal attacks. Some people are going to disagree with it. Fine. They are in the minority. The majority has spoken, that is how it works.
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Uhhh I read the title of this thread and had a great post in mind...then I got here and forgot...
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What are they gonna do about drug tests. They can't fire people for this anymore or what? Same with the military. Now since it's legal they have to allow people that smoke THC in?
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It is a mental addiction though. Take it away from them and sure they'll want it. Do they have violent reactions? Well maybe if they rob a bank to get money to buy weed.

Alcohol is legal and it has it's problems. At least you are not supporting Cartels, organized crime by buying alcohol. You are also not a criminal for doing so.

Seems fair enough to me for MJ to be treated the same. Get the criminal element out of there. It ain't going to be perfect, but it's better than what we are wasting on regulating it as an illegal drug.
I agree 100%, I just think it is sensible to agree that some people are dependent on it instead of saying no one is. Just opens up a hole in the premise that doesn't need to exist.
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What are they gonna do about drug tests. They can't fire people for this anymore or what? Same with the military. Now since it's legal they have to allow people that smoke THC in?
Employers are still totally able to turn somebody away for failing a drug test. Just because smoking pot is legal doesn't mean employers have to accept it. Smoking is still an option just like it was before, only difference now is you can buy it from the store lol.

and p.s. my above comment was a joke.
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Employers are still totally able to turn somebody away for failing a drug test. Just because smoking pot is legal doesn't mean employers have to accept it. Smoking is still an option just like it was before, only difference now is you can buy it from the store lol.

and p.s. my above comment was a joke.
Technically, this opens the door for someone who fails a drug test to sue their employer for firing them.

Unlike an alcohol blood test (which is more or less an indicator of the current level of intoxication), a urine test does not specify whether the subject is currently under the influence.

If the drug is legalized (as it now is per state law), then an employer has lost a lot of justification for firing someone over a positive test. You might as well fire someone for having oxycontin, nyquil, or whatever prescribed medicine in their system.

The federal statute still prohibits use, but most companies and employers are licensed by the state.... so unless your boss wants to petition a federal court to hear their case my *guess* would be that on the job drug testing is going to become a major grey area.
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