Bob Costas and NBC just shat upon the 2cd Amendment on Sunday Night Football - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

Justin · 12-03-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ComeBack_Kid

There we go, the "slippery slope" argument used by anyone who is desperate to back their point up without actually talking about the issue at hand. Good stuff, junior.

But sure, let's go along with your retarded assertion: what if Bob Costas looked right into the camera and yelled "Women should not have the right to vote!"...

Why should I be upset about his remarks, even though I disagree with him? He'd be fired and would never be able to work in broadcasting again (understandably so) but nothing about the situation would upset me. Again, the man is a football commentator, not the President. His views have no affect whatsoever on my life, or yours, or the voting rights of women, or gun control, or any other important issue for that matter.

I think it's odd that you're upset about a stranger voicing his opinion (in the wake of an emotionally-charged tragedy too). Considering the fact that one of the most highly-valued tenets of American society is freedom of speech, I think he and anyone else should be allowed to speak their mind. If they choose to do it in such a public setting while representing their employers, the consequences are on them, but they still have that right.

You mentioning the Constitution while arguing Costas should not have said what he said is pretty damn ironic when the very first amendment to the Constitution guarantees protection of a man's freedom of speech.

Did you just call someones opinion retarded while defending someone else opinion and their right to say it? Thinking that its odd that he is upset about a stranger?

i don't actually care about any of this, im Canadian. I just like to start e-fights!

goyo · 12-03-2012, 10:38 AM

The reason Bob Costas made that statement was because saturday afternoon a Kansas City Chiefs player shot and killed his girlfriend and then committed suicide on the stadium parking lot.

The 2nd amendment is very debatable, I agree that people have the right to carry a hand gun. But what if that person is "unstable" is it fair that un unstable person buys a gun at walmart just showing his drivers license?

I think you we should have more restrictions.

Just my 2c.
Cheers!

Dim Mak 1470 · 12-03-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goyo

The 2nd amendment is very debatable, I agree that people have the right to carry a hand gun. But what if that person is "unstable" is it fair that un unstable person buys a gun at walmart just showing his drivers license?

I think you we should have more restrictions.

Just my 2c.
Cheers!

I live in California and we are one of the strictest on gun laws. There's still crazies getting them & they will continue getting them no matter what.

Cheers! back

tdn · 12-03-2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComeBack_Kid

There we go, the "slippery slope" argument used by anyone who is desperate to back their point up without actually talking about the issue at hand. Good stuff, junior.

But sure, let's go along with your retarded assertion: what if Bob Costas looked right into the camera and yelled "Women should not have the right to vote!"...

Why should I be upset about his remarks, even though I disagree with him? He'd be fired and would never be able to work in broadcasting again (understandably so) but nothing about the situation would upset me. Again, the man is a football commentator, not the President. His views have no affect whatsoever on my life, or yours, or the voting rights of women, or gun control, or any other important issue for that matter.

I think it's odd that you're upset about a stranger voicing his opinion (in the wake of an emotionally-charged tragedy too). Considering the fact that one of the most highly-valued tenets of American society is freedom of speech, I think he and anyone else should be allowed to speak their mind. If they choose to do it in such a public setting while representing their employers, the consequences are on them, but they still have that right.

You mentioning the Constitution while arguing Costas should not have said what he said is pretty damn ironic when the very first amendment to the Constitution guarantees protection of a man's freedom of speech.

Does anyone else see the irony?

linvillegorge, asked if it's acceptable to discuss the 2nd Amendment the way that he did. He never asked for an exception to the 2nd Amendment. Think of it like this, I ask is it acceptable to say the word "fuck" in public. Some would say it is acceptable others will disagree, but the 2nd Amendment never comes into play. I agree with linvillegorge, that it was unacceptable but you'll never hear me say his rights should be restricted.

tdn · 12-03-2012, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goyo

The 2nd amendment is very debatable, I agree that people have the right to carry a hand gun. But what if that person is "unstable" is it fair that un unstable person buys a gun at walmart just showing his drivers license?

I think you we should have more restrictions.

Just my 2c.
Cheers!

There are already places where you can walk in with a drivers license and buy a gun, those places are already some of the safest in the U.S., without issues of "unstable" people buying guns and killing people. By adding restrictions, it makes the process harder, longer, more expensive and even completely banned from people who are law abiding - all to stop the .0003% (I made that number up, but I'm willing to bet it's even smaller.) of the population who murder using a hand gun. I believe U.S. errs on the side of Liberty., or at least it used to.

What would you suggest for restrictions?

goyo · 12-03-2012, 11:32 AM

"What would you suggest for restrictions?"

Me personally? Well, I would ban it completely.
We're not in 1689 anymore.
Why would you need a gun? (other than sport hunting)

Anyway, I think the point of the thread is whether or not Bob Costas used national tv for his own opinion. Which People in the news do every day.
Was it the right time?? Well given the tragedy, I think it was.
He didnt pull the subject out of his ass. If was a tragedy related to football and he expressed his opinion.
Some agree and some don't...whats new??

Embrace debate!!

seant46 · 12-03-2012, 12:01 PM

I mean the US has been signing acts into law that already take away some rights. Patriot act, NDAA... What constitution are you guys taking about

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seant46 · 12-03-2012, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goyo

"What would you suggest for restrictions?"

Me personally? Well, I would ban it completely.
We're not in 1689 anymore.
Why would you need a gun? (other than sport hunting)

Anyway, I think the point of the thread is whether or not Bob Costas used national tv for his own opinion. Which People in the news do every day.
Was it the right time?? Well given the tragedy, I think it was.
He didnt pull the subject out of his ass. If was a tragedy related to football and he expressed his opinion.
Some agree and some don't...whats new??

Embrace debate!!

when the police state arrives i'm sure you'd love to have a gun

goyo · 12-03-2012, 12:11 PM

Oh yeah, like that would help, Me-gun vs lots of military-police people with more guns?
I would prefer to use my incredibly bad ass ninja skills to kick some ass.

Hahahah

seant46 · 12-03-2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goyo

Oh yeah, like that would help, Me-gun vs lots of military-police people with more guns?
I would prefer to use my incredibly bad ass ninja skills to kick some ass.

Hahahah

So youd rather have nothing and bend over? logical

I think if a decent amount of good citizens had guns it COULD do something. Anyways enough conspiracy theory talk

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12-03-2012, 10:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
goyo Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 41	The reason Bob Costas made that statement was because saturday afternoon a Kansas City Chiefs player shot and killed his girlfriend and then committed suicide on the stadium parking lot. The 2nd amendment is very debatable, I agree that people have the right to carry a hand gun. But what if that person is "unstable" is it fair that un unstable person buys a gun at walmart just showing his drivers license? I think you we should have more restrictions. Just my 2c. Cheers!

12-03-2012, 11:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
goyo Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 41	"What would you suggest for restrictions?" Me personally? Well, I would ban it completely. We're not in 1689 anymore. Why would you need a gun? (other than sport hunting) Anyway, I think the point of the thread is whether or not Bob Costas used national tv for his own opinion. Which People in the news do every day. Was it the right time?? Well given the tragedy, I think it was. He didnt pull the subject out of his ass. If was a tragedy related to football and he expressed his opinion. Some agree and some don't...whats new?? Embrace debate!!

12-03-2012, 12:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
goyo Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 41	Oh yeah, like that would help, Me-gun vs lots of military-police people with more guns? I would prefer to use my incredibly bad ass ninja skills to kick some ass. Hahahah