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LOL @ Canadians being all high and mighty about firearms. Easy to do that when you have a military superpower on your southern border that would roll deep on anyone dumb enough to invade any country on this continent.
That's like a post I read once where someone compared gun ownership to tax levels. The two are totally unrelated. If I had a magic wand that would eliminate the second amendment overnight, it wouldn't affect the size of the US military. If a different magic wand gave every Canadian a gun, it wouldn't give us a bigger military.


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That's like a post I read once where someone compared gun ownership to tax levels. The two are totally unrelated. If I had a magic wand that would eliminate the second amendment overnight, it wouldn't affect the size of the US military. If a different magic wand gave every Canadian a gun, it wouldn't give us a bigger military.
The two are definitely intertwined. You'll find some of the most ardent proponents of the 2cd Amendment in the military. If the 2cd Amendment ever came under full scale attack and the US military was called upon to act against the citizenry, I think the government would probably get a full dose history lesson on the original intent of the 2cd Amendment.

And yes, trust me, any nation that ever thought about invading the US would definitely be well aware of the gun ownership in this country. Even if you could defeat the military, you'd be dealing with a well armed, spread out populace. This place would be absolute hell to occupy. It'd be virtually impossible.
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The two are definitely intertwined. You'll find some of the most ardent proponents of the 2cd Amendment in the military. If the 2cd Amendment ever came under full scale attack and the US military was called upon to act against the citizenry, I think the government would probably get a full dose history lesson on the original intent of the 2cd Amendment.

And yes, trust me, any nation that ever thought about invading the US would definitely be well aware of the gun ownership in this country. Even if you could defeat the military, you'd be dealing with a well armed, spread out populace. This place would be absolute hell to occupy. It'd be virtually impossible.

Sounds like an episode of The Living Dead.
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And yes, trust me, any nation that ever thought about invading the US would definitely be well aware of the gun ownership in this country. Even if you could defeat the military, you'd be dealing with a well armed, spread out populace. This place would be absolute hell to occupy. It'd be virtually impossible.
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Yours was the first comment that didn't seem to be CAN v. USA. I agree with your statement.



Comments like this and the one I quoted earlier are what surprised me. I'd surely appreciate a bordering country's help or protection.



I actually DO appreciate Canada for hockey. When Canadians are referring to Americans as dumb, and seeming unappreciative of what we can/do for their country, etc, it begins to appear to be the only thing. Which is obviously not the case. Just heated debate, which has run through this thread.
True enough its understandable this is a touchy subject that can get heated, it just seemed to be going a little far. Water under the bridge I am glad i edited out the word 'fucktard' and used the word people instead in my original quote because you clearly are not a fucktard after explaining yourself
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IMO...and i said this toooo many times...2nd Amendment right is blown out of proportion...back then when they wrote the amendments they were talking about bearing MUSKETS not multiple fire-arms and military grade weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.....i dont give a FLUCK if your for your firearms there is no reason one single household/human needs a military graded weapon, several .38s and a few rifles...you want guns fine...BUT we need to have regulation and yearly tests and evaluations to obtain them...people change emotions change situations happen and people in the end use poor judgement while innocence pays....guns dont kill people...people kill people...

Sincerely, a angered american who believes dandelions need to be shoved down a barrel mouth...Melissa


And ps...love The ARt of Flight but i may have been one of very few appalled yet dumbfounded that a group of guys can walk in and buy thousands of dollars worth of guns, ammo, and such....point made
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If you honestly believe the solution to what happened today is more guns, you are pants-on-head retarded. If you believe taking them away entirely is the solution you are too. The real problem lies in the fact that people can be noticed as "odd", "strange", or worse , and nobody can do anything about it. You don't fix something by going after the results, you fix it by going after the causes.


Just yesterday a man in China slashed 22 children and an adult outside a elementary school with a knife. shit that like happens all over the world, quite often.

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i may have been one of very few appalled yet dumbfounded that a group of guys can walk in and buy thousands of dollars worth of guns, ammo, and such....point made
Probably because this is America "Land of the free". Oh and please show me where in the second that it mentions anything about single shot muskets... The second amendment was written so that civilians could protect themselves from the government. It put no limits on the "types" of weapons. No I don't think people should be able to run around with fully automatic weapons. But what's the point of disarming a society so that the only ones with weapons are the criminals? This shooting proves that banning guns doesn't work. None of the faculty were allowed to carry guns, and so the killer had free reign on whoever he wanted until the police arrived. Please tell me what waiting for the police did. In case that is a hard question to answer, it left more than 2 dozen innocent people defenseless, and guess what? The killer KNEW this.

Do you remember when that wacko shot up that military base Fort Hood in Texas?
Do you know why he was able to kill so many people?
Because the soldiers on that base weren't allowed to carry their issued rifles. Only the MP's. Do you think he would have killed 13 people and wounded 29 others if those other soldiers were allowed to carry weapons?
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If you honestly believe the solution to what happened today is more gun, you are pants-on-head retarded. If you believe taking them away entirely is the solution you are too. The real problem lies in the fact that people can be noticed as "odd", "strange", or worse , and nobody can do anything about it. You don't fix something by going after the results, you fix it by going after the causes.


Just yesterday a man in China slashed 22 children and an adult outside a elementary school with a knife. shit that like happens all over the world, quite often.
This. My wife and I were talking about that this evening. Everyone wants to talk about the "warning signs" etc. after something like this happens, but the bottom line is that mental illness isn't taken seriously in this country. It's something to be ashamed of, to be whispered about, and to be hidden away. Our mental health system is fucking awful. The way we approach it is fucking broken and just throwing drugs down people's throats isn't a legit answer. I maintain that we have a societal problem much more than we have a gun problem.
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