Jesus dude you are MISSING the point. There is no gun problem
. There is a problem with clinically insane people committing these murders. How is that so hard to understand?
And so what if some of those self defense cases weren't against other humans?
The fact that they were able to use a tool to save their life should be enough reason.
The problem with you anti gun people is that you refuse to accept the fact that these bad people will use any tool they can to accomplish their agenda, whether it's a knife, a bat, a box cutter, a commercial jet, etc.
And donuts I respect your opinion, but I strongly disagree with you throwing out the possibility of demographics coming into play, per capita or not, it does make a difference in peoples mindset and personality as a whole.