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Atheist means unbeliever. Its done that way on purpose. Without any belief (in yourself for instance) you are doomed.
See I have no problem with people being religious, to each their own. When someone thinks their all high and mighty, and goes around telling people their doomed because they have a different point of view, that's when I say fuck you!
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I find the replies pretty interesting and will offer the following thoughts:

- I never mentioned anything about God in this thread

- I found the description this explanation of Atheism to be true.

However, by your own admission - it is quite clear that there was a bit of planning/design that went into the world/universe as we know it. Otherwise, what was posted is true.

To deny either one is admit oneself as a "ignoramus".

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The way it stands written there is no middle ground, either you believe in a deity or you are doomed, right?
Btw, it doesnt say that in any religion except for Islam to my understanding.

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- I never mentioned anything about God in this thread
The matter of atheism pertains to the issue of 'a' god, whether spelt with a capital g or not.

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However, it is quite clear that there was a bit of planning/design that went into the world/universe as we know it. Otherwise, what was posted is true.

To deny either one is admit oneself as a "ignoramus".
an example of irony.

Just coz you don't understand it
Doesn't mean it makes no sense!
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- I never mentioned anything about God in this thread
So what? You're a well-known theist, and you posted something that is intended to be a put-down of atheism. Duh! Don't play disingenuous, CM. It's silly and no-one's fooled.

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- I found the description this explanation of Atheism to be true.
So what? You've already proven time and time again that your belief system clouds your ability to think rationally. A believer doesn't believe in non-belief! whoopie! Call the newspapers!

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However, by your own admission - it is quite clear that there was a bit of planning/design that went into the world/universe as we know it. Otherwise, what was posted is true.
Yeah, if you squint real hard, look sideways while toking up and yelling "LA LA LA!" you can make that claim. In the real world where most of the rest of us reside, that just didn't happen. Sorry.

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As usual, you have convinced nobody of anything. I'd complain and call you a troll, except that I actually welcome these threads. They are a good opportunity to educate lurkers, and each one chips away a little more at the credibility of organized superstition.


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Btw, it doesnt say that in any religion except for Islam to my understanding.
Most of what is considered dogma or orthodoxy in christianity isn't actually 'written'. For that matter, the behaviour of most xians runs counter to what the bible says. Most xians do believe the above.

As a humourous aside, I think it's great when you get some combination of JWs, muslims, fundamentalists, and hard-line catholics in the same room. Each one of them telling the others that they're going to hell (or local equivalent) and threatening in a most passive-aggressive manner to pray for each other's souls. Great theatre!


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So what? You're a well-known theist, and you posted something that is intended to be a put-down of atheism. Duh! Don't play disingenuous, CM. It's silly and no-one's fooled.
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blah.. blah... blah....

Attack the argument not the person.

What was presented is about atheism - not God.

In summary, the king isn't wearing any clothes.

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Most of what is considered dogma or orthodoxy in christianity isn't actually 'written'. For that matter, the behaviour of most xians runs counter to what the bible says. Most xians do believe the above.

As a humourous aside, I think it's great when you get some combination of JWs, muslims, fundamentalists, and hard-line catholics in the same room. Each one of them telling the others that they're going to hell (or local equivalent) and threatening in a most passive-aggressive manner to pray for each other's souls. Great theatre!
I have to agree with you. American Christianity is way off base and not scriptural and has been for quite awhile.

To my understanding - nowhere in the bible does it say if you don't accept Jesus you are going to hell-nowhere. In fact, nowhere does it say when you die, you go to heaven.

In review, chances are if you don't like the teachings of Christ, than chances are you will not be comfortable with others who do or want to spend any lengthy sort of time being around them let alone God ( it would be uncomfortable for you as well as the other person).

Modern Islam sects/law can be very violent - if you do not accept Mohammad - you are killed as a heretic. To my knowledge there is no other religion 'today" that offers that. Most have and take on a "live and live" viewpoint

In summary, what was originally presented was on atheism of which directly attacked the absurdity of denying a creative influence of origin of the universe (ie GOD).

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