Gun Control Debate thread

[EatRideSleep]

Btw, Piers Morgan is losing his shit on his show right now about "Guns in America"...

[Skinny Bam]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

THATS the problem. Its always about this "right". Its that "right" which is fucked, and cant be used as an argument. Here is what the rest of the civilized world feels: YOU DONT NEED THAT RIGHT.


Its a good debate, but im out. I stand by my first statement.

More bad things can happen then good when more people have guns then dont.

So if the whole world knows all of our citizens are unarmed you dont think they are more likely to come fuck us up? The rest of world generally is not a big fan of the USA but know a lot of us carry weapons and will fight for our shit.

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by TorpedoVegas

I'm pretty sure there are 20 sets of parents today that would have rather heard that there was 20 schoolchildren "hurt" rather than dead. This argument and the news link pretty much proves the need for gun controls

+1

Imagine if that guy in the oregon mall was running around with a knife instead of that assault rifle. Im sure it would have been much less of an issue

[linvillegorge]

LOL @ Canadians being all high and mighty about firearms. Easy to do that when you have a military superpower on your southern border that would roll deep on anyone dumb enough to invade any country on this continent.

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by Skinny Bam

So if the whole world knows all of our citizens are unarmed you dont think they are more likely to come fuck us up? The rest of world generally is not a big fan of the USA but know a lot of us carry weapons and will fight for our shit.

wow...paranoia.

You have a military to protect you. You dont need to sleep with a pistol in your pants in case zzz germans attack.

[TorpedoVegas]

Originally Posted by ThunderChunky

Are you retarded Torpedo?

Maybe I need to slow it down for you... damn American education system... sometimes I forget who i'm talking to... Sorry my bad

[slyder]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Slight embellishment perhaps, but a 10 day wait is semantics. Correct me if im wrong, but if you have a license to carry a hand gun and you have gone through the process to get that licensee can you not simply go buy one immediately?

10 minutes, or 10 days makes not difference thou. Someone wanting to plan a mass killing, or simply have a semi automatic hand gun "just in case" will wait 10 days.

Where I live if you are caught with a hand gun its jail time. Unless you are going to or coming from a firing range, and IMO i think its fcked in Canada too that we allow people to buy handguns.

It is not semantics it is a false statement.
Yes someone willing to do this can or may wait the 10 days and then do it. Again this is not the issue of gun access but the person willing to commit such a violent, senseless crime.
I have never stated I condone this type of crime and I am truly saddened for everyone involved. Why someone one would kill randomly let alone small defenseless children I can not begin to understand I just don't feel it is a gun issue or the fault of the gun

Is it a safe statement that you just don't like guns, which I am fine with and it is an honorable stance for you. It just doesn't work for me.

This is about a human beings actions not the method of his actions. Had guns not been available who knows the action he would have taken. It could have taken more lives but I honestly believe with the gun he did more damage. I'm won't pretend otherwise.

[Capita2JZGTE]

You guys just don't get it. If even one staff member at that school had a gun, it would have prevented at least but possibly more than half of the deaths that occurred.
You outsiders that don't understand our second amendment are ignorant. Gun control will have no effect on these mass murders.
9/11 happened at the hand of box cutters, Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people with a homemade bomb. Ted Kaczynski used homemade explosives. Did the war on drugs stop people from dealing drugs?
Weren't guns illegal to possess at this elementary school? Well if so, then how did this trajedy happen? You mean to tell me a criminal with the intent to kill didn't turn around and walk home after he read the sign that said guns weren't allowed?

[Skinny Bam]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

wow...paranoia.

You have a military to protect you. You dont need to sleep with a pistol in your pants in case zzz germans attack.

Lol you call it paranoia, I call it being prepared. Granted I don't personally own a gun but plan to fairly soon.

I forgot my other point though too, if guns are banned this means the only people that will have them are people who got them illegally and are obviously planning on doing other illegal things with them.

[ThunderChunky]

You are the one dumb enough to think stabbing 20 kindergarteners will just give them flesh wounds. They would be dead. I have knifes bigger than kindergarteners.