Gun Control Debate thread

[slyder]

I'm not trying to make this a US vs Canada and I don't think "I" have.

What should also be pointed out are the *millions* of average, everyday people that have a gun, rifle, permit to carry a gun or do not have a permit that don't carry illegally. That have never committed a crime. We are everyday folks that go to church, school, work, have kids, pay mortgage or rent.

You don't read about us in the paper, we are not a statistic of carnage. We might be a snowboarding dad on a forum, guy driving his kids to a sporting event in the minivan next to you, maybe your boss.

We are the majority of people who own guns that you would never know about. Are we the subject to have our, I know *right again* taken away????
It may not be perfect but there is NO way it can ever be. There is a flaw or loop hole in everything.

amazing how this blew up to 8 pages in less than 1/2 hour time.....

[ThunderChunky]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Perhaps we could all crap on something about France tomorrow? Or better yet policies in China. Id be happy to lead that one...

Fuckin France...

[ThunderChunky]

Originally Posted by slyder

I'm not trying to make this a US vs Canada and I don't think "I" have.

What should also be pointed out are the *millions* of average, everyday people that have a gun, rifle, permit to carry a gun or do not have a permit that don't carry illegally. That have never committed a crime. We are everyday folks that go to church, school, work, have kids, pay mortgage or rent.

You don't read about us in the paper, we are not a statistic of carnage. We might be a snowboarding dad on a forum, guy driving his kids to a sporting event in the minivan next to you, maybe your boss.

We are the majority of people who own guys that you would never know about. Are we the subject to have our, I know *right again* taken away????
It may not be perfect but there is NO way it can ever be. There is a flaw or loop hole in everything.

Not to mention teacher

[jdthai]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Told ya there are dicks in Canada too . Besides, Baseball?! Isnt that mainly played by cubans now?

SSSSSsssshhhhhhh...

Don't tell them.....

The cubans like to fly under the USrAdar...
..or, at least they said last time I visited...

- JD

[seant46]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Told ya there are dicks in Canada too . Besides, Baseball?! Isnt that mainly played by cubans now?

Not sure but a few years back in highschool baseball seemed to be strictly for gingers and band members ha.

Oh look now im being a hypocrite going off topic

[Cr0_Reps_Smit]

if guns are so bad how does Switerland make it work? every male from 20-30 is issued a Sig 550 rifle and properly trained in its use.

Gun politics in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[jackthelad]

The last mass Shooting was the Port Arthur Massacre in Tasmania
By Martin Bryant
After which there was a national buy back of guns
since then there has been mostly crimanal gun crimes, and no mass shootings
Unless your paid to go to War, live as a farmer or paid to hunt animals, or live in isolation in the outback/wilderness.
there is little purpose in owning a gun
in high density/ city living there is no purpose to owning one
my 2 cents
John

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by Cr0_Reps_Smit

if guns are so bad how does Switerland make it work? every male from 20-30 is issued a Sig 550 rifle and properly trained in its use.

Gun politics in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Certainly an interesting point, and one which I am well aware of. Being a German citizen as well as Canadian i was almost sent to Rekrutenschule for mandatory 2 year enlistment. Similar to Switzerland all Germans are required to go (not keep the guns after thou).


While I certainly cant say for sure why switzerland doesn't have as high a level of gun violence I can say that its a night and day different culture. They have no military, and being a neutral country do not partake in any military conflicts what so ever. Violence, settling things with guns and military arsenal is simply not in them. Another thing to consider is that like the members of the US military they are properly trained to use and respect fire arms. I'd be interested to see, but id venture a guess that the number of military personal in the US that commit gun crimes is probably proportionately lower then civilians? Just a guess.

Id say its more to do with their culture of not buying guns to protect themselfs from other gun owners.

[mjd]

fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!! just shoot yourself in the face- ultimate pure gun love.

[ThunderChunky]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Certainly an interesting point, and one which I am well aware of. Being a German citizen as well as Canadian i was almost sent to Rekrutenschule for mandatory 2 year enlistment. Similar to Switzerland all Germans are required to go (not keep the guns after thou).


While I certainly cant say for sure why switzerland doesn't have as high a level of gun violence I can say that its a night and day different culture. They have no military, and being a neutral country do not partake in any military conflicts what so ever. Violence, settling things with guns and military arsenal is simply not in them. Another thing to consider is that like the members of the US military they are properly trained to use and respect fire arms. I'd be interested to see, but id venture a guess that the number of military personal in the US that commit gun crimes is probably proportionately lower then civilians? Just a guess.

Id say its more to do with their culture of not buying guns to protect themselfs from other gun owners.

Unfortunately that's not the case. Though it's lower, it's not incredibly lower. I specifically remember a case were an officer went to a homecoming celebration and killed everyone. A whole company came home from deployment and was killed by their own when they walked in and saw their families. Suicide is a HUGE thing in the military too. We have to watch suicide prevention videos every damn day. They do quite the opposite.