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Old 11-13-2008, 10:41 AM   #21 (permalink)
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who called you a conspiracy nutbag?
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter. Assuming it DOES exist, it is the people involved in it who have the power and they are going to further their own agenda. Whether or not they are a member of a club is irrelevant unless you are suggesting that there is some dark and shadowy figure even more behind the scenes controlling them all like puppets.
i really don't care about their secret society of buttsex. what i do care about is how they think it's fun to control our lives with such sick & twisted schemes. and i think it should be discussed more so that more sheeple become aware of it.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:45 AM   #23 (permalink)
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various sundry individuals hinting that I may be such a person.. I have an open mind but obama a member of an ancient European secret order?? WTF?? HUH?? nope, not gonna belive it...would'nt be prudent.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
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yes! that's exactly what i want to discuss.
Then this doesn't belong in the Politics section, as you might as well be discussing UFOs...of which there is more evidence.

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obama aside, you don't believe the illuminati exists or that the claims made of their involvement in historical & current events hold any truth?
Why would I believe the Illuminati exists with no evidence? Same reason I don't believe in the Easter Bunny. Specifically, how are they involved with CURRENT events? Show me a link to Obama, even tenuous at best. If you can't answer that, then what is there to discuss?

With the myriad of political topics out there today that actually have an impact on your life, this is what you want to waste brain power on? Baffles me...
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i really don't care about their secret society of buttsex. what i do care about is how they think it's fun to control our lives with such sick & twisted schemes. and i think it should be discussed more so that more sheeple become aware of it.
Why do the schemes have to be sick and twisted? Everyone in power since the beginning of time has manipulated people....that's kind of the job.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:56 AM   #26 (permalink)
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okay, so go find me facts of other secret happenings currently taking place. i'm sure there's only hundreds happening at the moment. but there aren't any facts to be found, at least not by people like you & me. but that doesn't make them any less true.
 
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Why do the schemes have to be sick and twisted? Everyone in power since the beginning of time has manipulated people....that's kind of the job.
they don't have to be, but they are.
war, disease & poverty inflicted on the masses is a sick & twisted scheme. imo.
 
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okay, so go find me facts of other secret happenings currently taking place. i'm sure there's only hundreds happening at the moment. but there aren't any facts to be found, at least not by people like you & me. but that doesn't make them any less true.
Then why discuss them if they're in the realm of make-believe? BTW, the onus is on you to provide evidence when asked for, not me as I wasn't making the claim that somehow Barack is involved with the illuminati. Why would I look for something that is obviously not happening and likely is another conspiracy theory?
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:29 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Maybe he's an alien, because right around the election there were a few UFO spottings.
i am of the conviction that most, if not all americans are in fact aliens!

they do not act like the rest of us; their grasp of humanity seems to be by and large 'alien' to them; and they sure as hell act as though this planet is just a temporary and thus disposable item.....

all of the above stands as fact far more strongly than anything linking secret societies to Obama or your mama!
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