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N~R~G 11-12-2008 05:23 PM

the illuminati
gotta make this quick & then i'll revisit, it's just that i've been meaning to post this for days now & can never find the time. i still don't have the time! haha, but i'll post it anyway & then go into detail further as we go.

so the latest & greatest is that obama is part of the illuminati.

k, gotta go...i'll be back :D

X1n54n3x 11-12-2008 05:39 PM

how are you going to throw that out there and just bounce like that?

SpringheelJack 11-12-2008 06:31 PM

Maybe the Illuminati grabbed her? Dun dun daaaaa!

Unfortunately, the Illuminati don't really exist anymore, and haven't for centuries. The closest thing to them would be the Ordo Templi Orientis, which was basically one of Aleister Crowley's Dungeons And Dragons clubs. People link them to the Freemasons, (Illuminati are supposed to be the super-duper secret Freemasons, according to some) but that's mainly a result of conspiracy theories and trash like The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion. And if you've ever met any Freemasons, they're basically The Elks Lodge with more secret handshakes.

Twix 11-12-2008 07:35 PM

hocus pocus, alakazaam

rjattack19 11-12-2008 09:11 PM

esoteric agenda - Google Video

ever heard of the esoteric agenda? check this out

N~R~G 11-12-2008 11:09 PM

don't have the time to watch a 2 hour movie right now, so i'll have to check it out another time. i did watch a few minutes of it though & he stated something i hadn't heard before. he stated that one of the goals of the illuminati was to deliver the human race from all religion. i'll have to look into that more, but i found it interesting.

as for the illuminati being something of the past, i don't believe that's true. of course the guys who started it aren't around anymore since the circle is centuries old, but the bloodlines are still flowing & the circle is definitely still in practice & is so damn apparent you're blind if you can't see it. their objective is to rule the world. they have the power and the wealth to make things happen & they definitely do. they have done things their way for centuries & it's not going to stop until someone or something stops them.

my brother says it's good. that in our evolution a one world government would be the next step. a union. but that's not what they're about. they want to rule the world to make bank & get their jollies off knowing that we are all pawns in their game called life. not that we can really get away from any kind of establishment, as there always needs to be order, but control is beyond that.

so back to obama. he is no where near the top of the pyramid, but he's probably in the loop. and he's in the bloodline. i honestly can't say for sure that he's in it, as i definitely don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was or is shortly introduced.

rjattack19 11-13-2008 12:17 AM

oh man your deff. gonna get a kick out of the video. it talks about 1 world power and how they plan on doing it. i dont know if i believe it all but its fucking scary non the less:(

Perpetual3am 11-13-2008 12:17 AM

Any links to this to keep this in the realm of reality and not conspiracy theory? ...which I'm leaning to the latter. Sounds like tin foil hat speculation.

N~R~G 11-13-2008 05:36 AM

yeah see, i said i didn't really have the time to go searching to find facts to get you guys to believe me, but i wanted to throw it out there regardless...for those who have done the research on their own already.

it's hard to put fact to it, as things done by secret societies tend to stay secret. but some accusations, as snowolf said, are very hard to disbelieve.

and yeah, zeitgeist is a great movie for getting your mind to start thinking.

i know it can sound far fetched, but is it really that hard to believe? it's all throughout the american history.

PaoloSmythe 11-13-2008 05:52 AM

ultimately, Obama is a member of the elite.

if not the obvious elite that distinguishes 'leaders' from 'followers', then at least he is part of the intellectual elite.

fears of illuminati membership or any other sinister club (made sinister by its secrecy) is simply fear based upon the inevitable distintion born from the 'leader' and 'follower' relationship.

every one was numb to such concerns by their desire to see the end of the republican era. now that that has been accomplished, you have to dwell in the period of post victory hang over.

the 'what have i done' syndrome. well the intellectual elite is preferrable to the oil rich elite.... it is the lesser of two evils, which if he is an honest and true leader, will not be an evil at all.

only time, and the control of your personal fears, will allow you to perceive the outcome!

i think he deserves the benefit of doubt....

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