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Old 01-21-2010, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1. But whatever program you use, you need to run the scan with your computer in "safe mode" Some of the ick-ware will start up with your computer, and can look like a normal process which makes it difficult for anti-virus or anti-malware programs to catch and clean it. "Safe mode" means your computer has only the bare minimum processes running in the background.

Depending on your computer, you will either have "restart in safe mode" as an option in the shutdown/restart menu, or will need to hit one of the "F" keys during start-up (search for "start in safe mode" in your help section to find which one).

Once you do the scan and delete any problems you find, restart your computer normally.

2. And one should not only regularly clear their cache of "regular" cookies, but also clear cookies from the separate cache of Flash Player.

I am talking to all of posters in all of the forums, I want to see how wide spread this is and see if there may be some clues to help me piece this together.

And..if you get it here again, please give me the 6 suggestions I posted in my last post.

Some other suggestions from posters in other forums is:

1. But whatever program you use, you need to run the scan with your computer in "safe mode" Some of the ick-ware will start up with your computer, and can look like a normal process which makes it difficult for anti-virus or anti-malware programs to catch and clean it. "Safe mode" means your computer has only the bare minimum processes running in the background.

Depending on your computer, you will either have "restart in safe mode" as an option in the shutdown/restart menu, or will need to hit one of the "F" keys during start-up (search for "start in safe mode" in your help section to find which one).

Once you do the scan and delete any problems you find, restart your computer normally.

2. And one should not only regularly clear their cache of "regular" cookies, but also clear cookies from the separate cache of Flash Player.

I am talking to all of posters in all of the forums, I want to see how wide spread this is and see if there may be some clues to help me piece this together.

And..if you get it here, please give me the 6 suggestions I posted above.
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This weekend I had to delete c drive and start over because a trojan that was giving out my financial information over the internet and the virus software couldn't seem to remove it.

Tuesday night I had some sort of pop up about malware show up. I clicked the button that said closed instead of the x on the windows box, the next thing I knew something was downloading on my computer tailing me I had all of this male ware, then AVG suddenly popped up and told me I had a trojan, this time it was able to remove the trojan.

Tonight I had a random pop up asking me to download a pdf file, I hit the x this time and it went away.

The last two events happened while I was on this website, i am not sure how I picked up the first Trojan. I didn't know there was a problem until my bank called me about the fraudulent activity on my credit card. I wish people could find ways to make an honest living....

I don't have any suggestions to give. It was easy to delete the c drive, but took for ever get everything reinstalled...
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why cant everyone just buy a mac and be content.
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They are nice. My sister has a couple of them. Simple...everythings there built right in...
yeah, they are awesome.

and the best part is you can run windows XP or anything on it by installing an emulator or something of that sort.

with a mac the possibilities are endless, and you can use them to your advantage because you will never get a virus.
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yeah, they are awesome.

and the best part is you can run windows XP or anything on it by installing an emulator or something of that sort.

with a mac the possibilities are endless, and you can use them to your advantage because you will never get a virus.
If you want it to stay that way, you should probably tell less people to buy a Mac. The only reason mac viruses aren't as widespread is because they have such a small share of the home computer market. As that grows, the OS becomes a bigger and bigger target.

Trust me, I could write a virus for your mac that would make you cry.
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If you want it to stay that way, you should probably tell less people to buy a Mac. The only reason mac viruses aren't as widespread is because they have such a small share of the home computer market. As that grows, the OS becomes a bigger and bigger target.

Trust me, I could write a virus for your mac that would make you cry.
i'm sure many people have said that before, considering there are countless scripters out there skilled in that way.

and if that really was that easy, i'm pretty sure it would be widespread by now.
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I get a trojan almost every time i visit this site, lucky my virus software picks them up for me.
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If you want it to stay that way, you should probably tell less people to buy a Mac. The only reason mac viruses aren't as widespread is because they have such a small share of the home computer market. As that grows, the OS becomes a bigger and bigger target.

Trust me, I could write a virus for your mac that would make you cry.
BINGO! I hate seeing Mac people say "Mac's are so secure, never get a virus, blah blah blah" when you said exactly why.



Back on to the topic, I've never had an issue with this site I do remember closing an IE window at home and my anti-virus blocked some attack, but unsure if it was from here or not. I'll pay more attention and write down the details if it happens.
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i'm sure many people have said that before, considering there are countless scripters out there skilled in that way.

and if that really was that easy, i'm pretty sure it would be widespread by now.
It really is that easy. But let's play russian virus sender guy for a minute. Why would I write something that can only infect 5-9% of computers online when I can write something for windows where it can run on 90% of the computers online? In terms of security, it's far easier for me to run as root or snag all the passwords on you Mac (Unix) laptop than it is windows outside of installing a keylogger. Granted with windows, I can just use the user SID and the password hash to emulate you so I don't need to know your password. Also, people are dumb, click anything and keyloggers are easy to write.

We run about 500 servers here. 400 windows 100 unix. Some of which are on double super scret probation networks where every packet is logged for security. Take a guess at which OS was comprimsed more often than others and used to attack or attempt to attack that network? Hint, it wasn't Windows.

I'm not trying to say windows is better than mac. I'm just pointing out that you shouldn't blindly believe that your mac is impervious to viruses and attacks. The more people who use it, the less protected you are. More importantly, if you keep that cavalier attitude towards your own security, you'll likely be the next victim.
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Never gotten I virus from this site but I run Linux primarily and also have Ad Block Plus installed.

Pheeldo: It's not that there are no Mac viruses. There are far far fewer and they don't spread easily due to the small number of Macs.
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