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Old 02-07-2010, 12:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Sounds like what I did about 6 years ago. Carthwheeled down a jump nose dug in and my bodies torque caused the binding to shift 18 more degrees and my ankle popped. I was down and out for about 2 weeks. Ankle sprains are pretty rare if your boots fit properly if they're too big it's common.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Last time I sprained my ankle to a point that it swelled up and bruised I was out for a long time. Happened two years ago, and it still aches some times. I have a high pain threshold too, so when I say it aches, it REALLY hurts.

Sprains are like breaks and burns; Many different degrees which make a big difference on healing times.
1st Degree will heal in no time, and by the next couple days should be ok. basically just stretching the ligaments.
2nd Degree takes awhile longer, you have actually damaged some of the ligaments, might be some bruising (ligaments bleeding)
3rd Degree is where you have completely ripped some or all of the ligaments, bruising on both sides can happen, massive swelling, and might need surgery to repair.

When I did my 3rd degree is was far worse than any broken bones I've ever done, and actually take much much longer to heal. Not pleasant at all.

If you can get a prescription, and have coverage, go to rehab. I didn't bother cus I was too busy with work, and I definitely regret it.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The data shows that ankle injuries are pretty common.

Snowboarding Injuries - January 1, 1999 - American Academy of Family Physicians

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Old 02-19-2010, 11:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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This is an extremely common snowboarding injury. It could be something as simple as a sprain or it could be a more serious condition called snowboarder's ankle which is a fracture of the lateral process of the talus. The lateral process of the talus is a triangular protrusion of bone that sticks out from the outside of your talus. The talus is the middle bone in your ankle that sits on top of your heel bone. You should definitely get this checked out by a doctor asap. X-rays are notoriously unreliable for this type of fracture so if the x-ray doesn't show anything then you should insist on an mri.

Don't just brush it off as a sprain and assume it's no big deal. I made that mistake 6 years ago and I regret it to this day. I waited two months after the x-ray came up negative before I went for the mri and it turned out I had been walking around on a fractured ankle for two months. I had to get surgery to put the piece of bone back into the proper position with screws and they had to dig around in there to remove excess bone fragments from the subtalar joint. No fun at all trust me. Get it taken care of now before it gets worse.

If it is just a sprain then congrats you lucked out but you might still have a bruised talus in which case it will take longer to heal than your average sprain, probably more like a month rather than just two weeks. Like I said these injuries are extremely common and they happen to the best of us. Shaun White chipped his talus last winter in his private Red Bull halfpipe while tricking into a foam pit, so even landing into what you would assume is a nice cushioned foam pit and he still chipped that bone a little. He couldn't skateboard all summer long but luckily he got it taken care of right away and he was good to go for the 2010 olympics. We all saw how well he performed in the olympics so keep your eye on the big picture. Don't be so eager to keep on riding now at the cost of permanently damaging your ankle and jeaopardizing your chances of lots more riding in the future.

As far as boot tightness and boot sizing goes, yeah a tighter boot, smaller boot, tighter binding will certainly help but it's no guarantee. Anything can happen out there. The twisting and bending and all the kinetic energy involved when you're coming down from a big air, you just don't know. Unless you have a hardshell ski boot on, there's a good chance of injury, especially if you stick the tip and do the head over heels thing. All a properly fitted snowboard boot is going to do is maybe take an injury that could have been a break and leave you with only a sprain or bruised bone instead. Even the stiffest soft snowboard boot is not very stiff or supportive compared to a hard shell ski boot.

I recently injured my ankle again on a cartwheeled landing in the backcountry, again a very soft deep pow landing but that doesn't always matter. I am getting the mri done on Monday. I am not even bothering with the x-ray because they are useless for this type of injury. You have to know for sure what you're dealing with so you will know your next move.

Good luck.
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Old 02-20-2010, 12:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Great post.

I straight-lined bombed a jump yesterday and messed the landing. Result: got an aknle sprain. Worst sprain I've had yet. Kept boarding though, just not as intense.

I have no swelling nor bruising. Nothing feels broken, I don't even have tenderness. I'm walking fine, I just wouldn't run.

I've been icing it like crazy and it seems to be a lot better.

How would you evaluate the degree of severity of a sprain? (see doc vs no doc)

Would you recommend seeing a doc regardless of the symptoms? - plz say no....

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Old 02-20-2010, 12:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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If you're sure it's not broken there is no reason to see a doctor. All he is going to tell you is to follow RICE. (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation).
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Like MauiWowie said, if you're absolutely sure it's not broken then don't bother going to a doctor, at least not yet. They will only tell you what you already know, rest, ice, compression, elevation. I didn't realize your injury was so fresh and for some reason I thought you said you cartwheeled your landing. If you came down on it really hard but didn't bend or twist it in any unnatural way and you were able to keep on riding the rest of the day then it most likely isn't broken.

I had a similar incident happen last season in the smaller terrain park at my mountain. I went into the jump too hot, overshot the transition and landed hard in the flats. It was jarring for sure and I could feel the compressive forces, but I was ok in a couple of days. In the end I just tweaked my achilles a bit. You have to be careful in those little grom parks because if you're used to hitting the real park you might accidentally carry too much speed into the jump and overshoot the landing.

Anyway it's the tipping forward on your board and the wrenching of your ankle into an excessive bend that will really mess you up, like when you flip and come down hard on your tip or your tail and lean your body too far in that direction or when you cartwheel your landing and bend forward too much. If you didn't do either of those things then you are probably ok.

Give it a week or two and see how it's doing. I would say don't ride on it again for at least a few days, optimally about a week and see if it feels significantly better. Also keep in mind that even if it is just a small ligament tear, that could open you up to a bigger injury since the ligaments are now weakened and if you take another har fall and put similar forces on it, the ankle could bend further next time which could lead to more severe tearing, bone chipping, etc. So if you do get back out there soon, try to tone down your aggressiveness at first.

My most recent injury was two weeks ago and it still isn't feeling much better so that's why I scheduled an MRI. I am somewhat hypersensitive to this kind of thing after my experience 6 years ago when they misdiagnosed my break as a sprain. I don't think my ankle is broken or even chipped this time around, but I just want to be absolutely sure so I don't inadvertently make it worse.

That's where I'm coming from. Better to be safe than sorry. For a $25 copay at the doctor's office you will know for sure and you can treat it accordingly at that point.
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:17 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Well I actually thread-jacked. But considering it dates back to 2008, I figured I'd got for it haha.

I must have been going not too far from 40 mph when the board caught during the failed landing. I'd say it's more the skidding/trying to slow down part mixed with catching bumps n whatnot that caused the sprain rather than the actual failed landing. (Skidding on my stomach, so I couldn't anticipate the terrain ahead)

I shall give it a week and see where it stands.

Way to kick off spring break.. lol

Thx for the input!!
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Old 02-20-2010, 02:54 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I sprained my left ankle a bit. Cartwheel over my ns summit from a pretty crappy landing ( off this 3 m drop) and my body went over the massive nose of the board ( practically set the front binding to the last insert). After 2 weeks of no sports and I still feel a bit of pain. Should see a doc now after I read this thread
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Old 02-20-2010, 03:04 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah go consult and tell us what the diagnosis was.
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