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mbesp · 03-21-2011, 05:51 PM

I think my shoulder sits normal but i know i've had a small tear in my rotator cuff for maybe 10 years now. Also the ball shaped part of my arm bone has a flat spot. It has never gotten completely out of socket it always up onto the ridge of the cup part of the socket.
I guess i wouldn't be able to get it back in by myself if it made it all the way out.

cjcameron11 · 03-21-2011, 06:27 PM

I can honestly say that a brace may prevent a dislocation if you have a slight knock or bump but if you fall on it hard or awkwardly a brace or tape won't do shot to prevent it popping out again. I know a fair bit about shoulder injuries as I dislocated my right shoulder and did a grade 3 AC joint separation on my left shoulder, I did hard rehab every day for 6 months for both injuries and I swear it is the only way to truly prevent re injuring an touch wood have not had a problem since. I have heard that if you dislocated you are 80% likely to do it again, thankfully so far I have not and I have played top level bball for 6 years since the dislocation. Bits all about rehab and strengthening your muscles and making sure the capsule is well supported by healthy tendons and ligaments, just my 2 cents

mbesp · 03-21-2011, 06:55 PM

Yeah i do have some exercises i should probably be doing for it. The thing is that while it will pop out if i land on it funny most of the time it pops out if i get off balance and swing my arm back. I'm pretty sure that if i wanted to i could get it to pop out whenever by swining it back.

cjcameron11 · 03-22-2011, 01:25 AM

Yeah that pretty much means the that ligaments and muscles are so loose that they are not doing their job. Surgery for you may be the only way to tighten these up, now i dont know for sure but i have heard that surgery can go either way with shoulders, as in it works or it doesnt, but yeah if you can live with it then great if not then i dont think the exercises will help too much.

Graphic Nature · 03-23-2011, 11:29 AM

I had a AC 3 tear, and chose the surgery route. They used a Orthoband to pull the clavix down. From what I was told, it works kinda like chinese handcuffs...the more its pulled, the tighter it gets.

mbesp · 03-27-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cjcameron11

Yeah that pretty much means the that ligaments and muscles are so loose that they are not doing their job. Surgery for you may be the only way to tighten these up, now i dont know for sure but i have heard that surgery can go either way with shoulders, as in it works or it doesnt, but yeah if you can live with it then great if not then i dont think the exercises will help too much.

Hmm I've been kinda thinking that is what it is coming down too. Such a pain.

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Originally Posted by Graphic Nature

I had a AC 3 tear, and chose the surgery route. They used a Orthoband to pull the clavix down. From what I was told, it works kinda like chinese handcuffs...the more its pulled, the tighter it gets.

I,m gonna have to get a shoulder diagram haha. I like the sound of the more it is pulled the tighter it gets though. How is your range of motion now after the surgery?

Graphic Nature · 03-27-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mbesp

I,m gonna have to get a shoulder diagram haha. I like the sound of the more it is pulled the tighter it gets though. How is your range of motion now after the surgery?

So far with self-taught physical therapy (web / youtube), I have excellent motion. I hope to start adding weights this week.

mbesp · 03-27-2011, 09:30 PM

Hmm that sounds good at least. I can tell the range in my left shoulder is worse than the right. Like if I lay on my back and put both my arms up over my head. My right hand will easily be on the ground where the left will float and then over time make it to the ground.

chrisbryan89 · 03-30-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Graphic Nature

The brace is going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than surgery!! trust me!

I have been wearing this for about 2 weeks now and its great Amazon.com: EVS SB02 Shoulder Brace - Large/Black: Automotive

I have been using this same brace ever since I tore my rotator cuff about a year and a half ago. Best $30 I ever spent. I can't lift without it tho and will probably have to keep wearing something similar till the day I die. Kind of a pain in the ass but worth it to avoid further injury

cjcameron11 · 03-30-2011, 06:34 PM

Instead of relying on a brace for the rest of your life which will eventually make the joint less stable how bout you try some rehab and strengthening exercises. I have had my fair share of injuries and i do believe that braces have their place (knee brace, ankle brace, back, neck etc) but to brace a shoulder is not only extremely difficult to do but it is sometimes pointless depending on the activity you partake in. As im sure you know the shoulder is a ball and socket joint, which like the hip gives us the abilty to have the maximum amount of rotation and movement compared to a elbow or knee which allows for limited movement. This basically means even if braced if you fall at the right (or wrong) angle while snowboarding the brace will not and physically cannot stop you from re-injuring the shoulder. Thus physical work on the joint is the only sure way to make everything stronger and less prone to injury, even if you are past the point of rehab and surgery is the only option then strength training will help you recover faster after having the surgery. There are heaps of options online to find exercises and info, here are some i like

Rotator Cuff Tears - All About Rotator Cuff Tears

http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/8043...physioadvi.htm

03-21-2011, 06:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
cjcameron11 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 725	I can honestly say that a brace may prevent a dislocation if you have a slight knock or bump but if you fall on it hard or awkwardly a brace or tape won't do shot to prevent it popping out again. I know a fair bit about shoulder injuries as I dislocated my right shoulder and did a grade 3 AC joint separation on my left shoulder, I did hard rehab every day for 6 months for both injuries and I swear it is the only way to truly prevent re injuring an touch wood have not had a problem since. I have heard that if you dislocated you are 80% likely to do it again, thankfully so far I have not and I have played top level bball for 6 years since the dislocation. Bits all about rehab and strengthening your muscles and making sure the capsule is well supported by healthy tendons and ligaments, just my 2 cents __________________ my names's Petey and i have gigantic balls

03-22-2011, 01:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
cjcameron11 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 725	Yeah that pretty much means the that ligaments and muscles are so loose that they are not doing their job. Surgery for you may be the only way to tighten these up, now i dont know for sure but i have heard that surgery can go either way with shoulders, as in it works or it doesnt, but yeah if you can live with it then great if not then i dont think the exercises will help too much. __________________ my names's Petey and i have gigantic balls

03-30-2011, 06:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
cjcameron11 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 725	Instead of relying on a brace for the rest of your life which will eventually make the joint less stable how bout you try some rehab and strengthening exercises. I have had my fair share of injuries and i do believe that braces have their place (knee brace, ankle brace, back, neck etc) but to brace a shoulder is not only extremely difficult to do but it is sometimes pointless depending on the activity you partake in. As im sure you know the shoulder is a ball and socket joint, which like the hip gives us the abilty to have the maximum amount of rotation and movement compared to a elbow or knee which allows for limited movement. This basically means even if braced if you fall at the right (or wrong) angle while snowboarding the brace will not and physically cannot stop you from re-injuring the shoulder. Thus physical work on the joint is the only sure way to make everything stronger and less prone to injury, even if you are past the point of rehab and surgery is the only option then strength training will help you recover faster after having the surgery. There are heaps of options online to find exercises and info, here are some i like Rotator Cuff Tears - All About Rotator Cuff Tears http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/8043...physioadvi.htm __________________ my names's Petey and i have gigantic balls

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03-21-2011, 05:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
mbesp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 354	I think my shoulder sits normal but i know i've had a small tear in my rotator cuff for maybe 10 years now. Also the ball shaped part of my arm bone has a flat spot. It has never gotten completely out of socket it always up onto the ridge of the cup part of the socket. I guess i wouldn't be able to get it back in by myself if it made it all the way out.

03-21-2011, 06:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
mbesp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 354	Yeah i do have some exercises i should probably be doing for it. The thing is that while it will pop out if i land on it funny most of the time it pops out if i get off balance and swing my arm back. I'm pretty sure that if i wanted to i could get it to pop out whenever by swining it back.

03-23-2011, 11:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
Graphic Nature Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 94	I had a AC 3 tear, and chose the surgery route. They used a Orthoband to pull the clavix down. From what I was told, it works kinda like chinese handcuffs...the more its pulled, the tighter it gets.

03-27-2011, 09:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
mbesp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 354	Hmm that sounds good at least. I can tell the range in my left shoulder is worse than the right. Like if I lay on my back and put both my arms up over my head. My right hand will easily be on the ground where the left will float and then over time make it to the ground.