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Mutha Frak'n Shiz!...

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#1 ·
Fucked my back up Monday night at the gym. I was squatting 315 lb for reps and felt a "twinge" on my 2nd set. I of course finished my workout (including stiff-leg dead lifts) because I'm a moron. :thumbsdown:

For the last 2 days I can barely bend over and I can't sit or stand too long without stiffening up. I'm really hoping at this point that it is just a soft tissue pull/strain and not a disc(s). Holy fuck am I hoping. Gonna give it til the end of the week to mellow and will go see a Dr. if it doesn't.

Point is, if this fucks up my 1st season after dropping almost $3k on gear and a season pass I'm gonna be pretty bummed (read as FUCKING PISSED OFF!). Anyway, just wanted to whine. As you were...

OD
 
#3 ·
I of course finished my workout (including stiff-leg dead lifts) because I'm a moron. :thumbsdown:
Well, there's your problem right there. :rolleyes:

Seriously, back problems can be a bitch. The only good thing about them is that they can also be agony and turn out to be just a pulled muscle.

Ice packs for the immediate moment. See a physio asap. Don't screw around. Season's coming.
 
#4 ·
Shooting leg pain, loss of strength while standing, leg giving out while walking is more an indication of structural damage as opposed to muscle strain. Not a doctor but this is what happened when I messed up my disc.

Sneezing is only 2nd to child birth on the pain scale!!!!!
Muscle relaxants with rest, try to stay off the pain killers just fools your body into letting you move around more than you should.

Get better soon we start riding next week hopefully. Man-made but it's riding !!!!
 
#10 ·
This time of year is kind of weird for geezers. You know you better step up so that you can hit it harder and ramp up faster....but you don't want to over do it and take your self out before the riding even happens. So kind of torn between doing nothing and hope for the best or doing something and something friching#$%^#$^$%#$^ happens.

Guess I need to go find some moar virgins to make an additional sacrifice for my health and a few extras for the snow gods....I'll get some for ya.
 
#11 ·
Take some ibuprofen to help and get to the doctor. I currently have a bulging l5-s1 disc and it sucks. I also did it lifting. It doesn't sound like you have one based on the symptoms you described. Mine was shooting pain down my left leg so bad that I couldn't move. I couldn't even lie down without pain. Typically a disc injury will press on the nerve that runs along your spinal cord, which will cause referred pain to other extremities, legs if the disc is lumbar, and arms if the disc is cervical.

In the meantime, try not to bend over at all, in case it is a disc problem. I really wouldn't do too much until you talk to the doctor.
 
#15 ·
That sounds like a strain of some sort. If you slipped a disc or herniated something you wouldn't be able to move at all without massive amounts of pain. Of course, it is much different reading a description than seeing it, but I'd put my money on a muscle pull or strain.

I'm a kinesiologist by the way, so I'm not just making this up as I go. I'd recommend seeing a physio in your local area though. It's much easier to diagnose and help in person than on a message board. lol

Best of luck with it.
Been popping naproxen like candy. Called the physio today. Waiting for a call back for an appt. No referred pain, but it does spasm a little now and then and it gets weak a feels "loose" for an instant every once in a while. I hope you're right and it's just a strain.

I've been icing in the evenings and stretching a couple times a day. I think it might be a little better now than it was yesterday. Of course a muscle relaxer, 2 beers, and 9 hours of sleep will work wonders! ;)

Thanks for all the replies...
 
#12 ·
That sounds like a strain of some sort. If you slipped a disc or herniated something you wouldn't be able to move at all without massive amounts of pain. Of course, it is much different reading a description than seeing it, but I'd put my money on a muscle pull or strain.

I'm a kinesiologist by the way, so I'm not just making this up as I go. I'd recommend seeing a physio in your local area though. It's much easier to diagnose and help in person than on a message board. lol

Best of luck with it.
 
#16 ·
^Pussy... :rolleyes:

Actually this is really pretty light for me. I was rep'n 455 at one point (10 years ago). You know up until about a year ago I never used a belt or wraps or any of that shit. I started using a belt about a year ago because I figured I was getting older and I should "be more careful". Actually I think the belt is the problem. Wearing a belt keeps you from properly engaging your core muscles to control the load. You just "push" against the belt to stabilize your core. No bueno.

That and the gym was cold because the windows were open and I only did 1 warm-up set. I don't think cold tight muscles helped at all.
 
#17 ·
Maybe look at the depth of your squats. If your not hitting parallel the weight could be to much for you overloading your lower back and legs.

Also make sure your not squat-morning the weight up which basically means squatting down and using your lower back to get yourself out of the hole.

Worse case scenario it could be a herniated disk. Then your screwed lol. Just make sure you get it looked at by a professional.
 
#18 ·
yeah... I think i'm going light in the gym from now on. The buddy I work out with fucked his back while we where doing deadlifts and hasn't been at the gym for three weeks
 
#24 ·
I think a lot of people have gone the heavy route and realized its not worth it. In 08 I tweaked my back and was out for a month and a half. Since then, I lift lighter, yet am still bigger and more defined then some of these guys in the gym that are tossing around too much weight with no form or ROM. Hopefully your doc gives you some good news. Your back isn't something to fuck with..
 
#25 ·
With all this talk of how much you lift and all that, it all comes down to what your want to do with your workout.

If you want to build muscle mass and get huge, do higher weights (within reason). The higher the weight the more your muscles are exerted and the more they regenerate and grow, giving you larger muscles.

If you want leaner muscles and to get ripped, use higher reps of lower weights, thats how you get cut and your muscle definition is greater but the mass isn't as much.

To each his own, but once you get to a mass you are happy with, I always suggest to transition to lower weights at higher reps to sustain your mass, while also putting your muscles through a good amount of work while not over exerting them as much compared to high weight and normal reps.
 
#26 ·
That's not entirely true. You could lift heavy all the time, but if you don't take in more calories than you burn, you won't gain mass. And for getting lean, you could lift high reps with lower weights, but if you eat McDonalds for every meal, you aren't going to get lean. It all comes down to nutrition when you are building muscle mass or losing fat.
 
#27 ·
Yeah, well that is all just assuming you aren't eating horribly or calorie loading. It's assuming your eating a balanced diet. I'm assuming they are in good shape to begin with. If you want to bring diet into the equation then there is no straight answer for all the questions that are being asked in here...
 
#30 ·
^This

BF% is genetics and diet. Toning is bullshit. The only thing you can do with a muscle is make it bigger. End of story. As for this endurance bullshit. That is cardio. As for lifting lighter weights more times... How many times do you think a power lifter with a 550 lb bench could bench 135 lbs? I guessing a fuck ton more than buddy-crossfit. Just saying... :D
 
#40 ·
Surferbum- Your assumption that cross fitters are healthier then powerlifters is bullshit. Yea, there are a lot of lazy fat powerlifter but some do pay attention to conditioning and are very healthy.

Another thing the makes you sound like an idiot is saying you stopped lifting "heavy". There is not such thing as fucking heavy. If your body has fully adapted to the weight and you are using proper form then there is no difference in squatting 135 or 315 safety wise.

Now my person opinion is that a lot of people quit lifting "heavy" cause its fucking hard. It a bitch to learn proper technique on some of the more complicated lifts. Doing squats and deadlifts are hard, and a lot of people just don't have the mind for it. Crossfit is just an easier thing for them. Building a cardiovascular base is much easier then building strength imo.
 
#43 ·
This is actually the 2nd time I've injured my low back. The first was about 6 years ago and I woke up with numb legs and shooting pain for a couple months. It was horrible. This time around I'm already much improved. I'm staying mobile, but not pushing it at all. Still taking naproxen and alternating heat and ice. I also stretch often. I can still do forward bends and I'm back to palms flat on the floor with knees locked out as of yesterday (the flexibility is a holdover from the martial arts days). I haven't had any weakness or that "buckling" feeling for a few days and it doesn't spasm when I "move wrong". Overall I'm confident heading in to opening day on the 23rd. :D

Thanks for the reply..

PS: Fuck crossfit!

Over the past 3 months I have become an expert of the bad back lol.

Back on July 21st I was doing a car show gig setting up a stage. I pulled my lower back out (my right side) as I was simply bending over to pickup a wooden barricade bar. Now I have done this before in the past a few times in my life and what happens next is worse than the back pain itself.

5 days after I pulled my back I went to work as a stage manager for Harborfest which is a 5 day summer party with a ton of bands. Trust me in the music industry the work "manager" is nothing, we all bust our asses non stop. At that point my back was sore but I made it thru those 5 days...but then...ohhh then..

Once I got back home what happens is the lower back muscle swells and the sciatica nerve flares up which causes extreme pain down the entire right leg. It is non stop pain which includes pulsing numbness in the leg and it truly feels like you have a coat hanger going up inside your leg from your toes to your hip. The only thing that stopped the pain was to simply lay down on the couch. At that point I felt great but as soon as I stand up its like stepping into a sword and pushing it all the way up to the hip. All on just the side I pulled my back.

During the month of August I basically laid on the couch and got up barely able to make it to the bathroom. I would have to literally get back on the couch or a floor or a bench and it would go away almost instantly...But again I stand up....I wouldnt wish that pain on my worst enemy...The pain was so bad no pain killers help. Oxy, hydro, morphine, nothing! Ohhh it helped a little..but you could still feel that coat hanger inside....I couldnt and didnt want to do anything! the pain was so constant thats all that controlled me. September wasnt much better, by October I was really wondering if it would ever go away.

The meds I took that helped were inflammatory stuff. Nexproxin (aleve) and ecto"something".

Yesterday (a good three months later) was the first day I could say im at 100%. I dont need the meds but I still take them until I am out. no more pain the swelling is down but I am still careful.

What you really need is rest and lots of it. If your into the chiropractor expect some repeat visits. Physical therapy can help but in some cases the pain is worse depending on the individual.

Good luck! I feel bad for you. I know the pain..:(
 
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