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Old 01-20-2009, 10:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Nitro Sub Pop 152

Sub Pop 152
Union Contacts
K2 T1's 9.5
145lbs
25in wide 18/-18
Sunny, warm (45*)

It was an experience for sure. First time I've ridden rocker and the dished base was a trip. First off, I spent the whole day on it and I still can't skate it. The dished base makes it so hard to skate off the unload ramp with. I could one foot on the groomers of Falcon at Breck with my Scaremaster but can't get 50ft before I'm backwards and have to reset on the Sub. Despite this problem I actually love the base. It has already saved my head. Came off a little wierd from a tailslide and the dished base kept me from catching an edge. It is super easy to press. I was just getting my presses to look good with my Scaremaster but with this my nosepresses resemble that of Joe Sexton and company. I finally landed a solid blunt stall with it too. Base is really durable, jibbed it all day at BC which means logs. There are maybe 3 visible scratches. None deeper than the width of a hair. One of them isn't a scratch but a smudge or something. I didnt read that it was the Scratch and Rip base but maybe thats what it is. Riding it over the rest of the mountain was a blast. The rocker makes it soo much easier. I'm usually contently tired after 4 solid hours in the park but today with the rocker I was noticably less tired. On the first run I felt like I wasn't turning much but realized I was and it only felt less because I was having to use much less effort to do it. Now the pop. I was definitely worried about this after reading a BA review on this and the fact that it was softer in the push test than an Artifact. I didn't get as much pop from this than I did my CAPiTA but I only had to use about 60% the energy to get 80% of the pop I used to. The thing is that when you put more effort into the pop the tail doesn't give it back. I could max out at about 90% of my Scaremasters max pop. Also despite the noodelage, it actually felt more solid than most the boards I've ridden when charging. Today was one of those days where the runs looked like you would be slip slidy (ice) but they were very ridable. This meant a flat grippable surface that you could really get going on. I loved the way it tracked and it gave me a lot of control. I tend to get in the back seat when charging so I was worried that with the center rocker I'd wash out or just topple over. I didn't. I loved the way it rode, it felt to me like a camber board with more control between my feet. I can only attribute this to the dished base. Its convex till you get to the tip and tail. This gives a mild resemblance to the Neversummer Recamber. No there is no recamber and It does not feel like Recamber. What I noticed is that even though it was rocker, because the edges dipped at the tip and tail, the ends of the effective edge had more pressure in the snow than the rest of the tips. It was a really cool feeling. Popping off of cat-lips was interesting. It landed great if I landed generally centered, but it will sketch you out a little if you land tip heavy. Since the tips will fold on you if you land on them they wont push you flat like a camber board will. I almost face planted once today due to this effect. It was barely slower edge-to-edge than my CAPiTA but handled bumps and trees just as well which was surprising cause my CAPiTA was a 148. So that I could throw this 152 around like a 148 was a nice feeling. I didn't take it off any real jumps cause I don't like the way they sculpt them at BC so that will be done on Thur at Keystone. And for powder, I just have to wait for it to snow here in Summit County, then I'll let you know.

Overall opinion: I loved the board. If your my size and in general you like softer boards and don't need something to boost to the moon than this would be a great stick for you. OK pop, great pressing, amazing cruiser.

Kickers were nothing special but I didn't have any problems either. I don't really POP off kickers with my tail though. It tends to send me wierd. I actually liked the stability it gave me popping of my toes or heels since the rocker moves the control to between your feet. Again if you land too tip heavy you'll go down, no squeezing out with this one.

I rode it today on peak 10 at Breck. It snowed all day pretty much so I got to ride some fresh treeness. Too soft for some real good freeriding but its my park board anyway. Handled it much better than I would have thought though. I had to work it to make some good turns in the trees but was easier than I figured. It did float pretty well and if I was just laying down some lazy turns in the deep it was magic. I'm mixed whether I like rocker for freeride. Its hard to not be centered on it and I really like to move my weight around when tree riding. I hope to ride A-Basin Montezuma Sunday so hopefully thats still good and fresh and I'll really see how it handles charging open powder.
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Old 01-24-2009, 01:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great write-up. This has made me feel more secure about selling my Sub Pop. I have a brand new one that's 148cm (still in plastic) and I'm still trying to sell it. I'm definitely going to stick with my Bataleon Goliath after reading this. Thanks!

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Old 02-14-2010, 11:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hey nivek, i was just wondering if you have much toe overhang on that board, cause the WW seems very narrow, but i also know that it has a really small radius at the middle which accounts for that small WW.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I do have a little more than I'd really like, but right now my buddy is riding it and has size 12's versus my 9.5's. Only thing it limits him with is maybe MJ's, but noone really does those anyway. He is also only riding 22.5 wide, so if you ride wider you have even more width for your boots.
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thx for replying, sounds good, i wear 10s so i don't think i will have problems, but do you know of any differences between the Late release edition or the current model? (other than graphics)
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I don't know of anything in particular. I just hope they would have fixed the insert issue. It seems that all the SubPops were drilled offcenter. The inserts are all set forward anywere from 1cm to 1in. Not a huge issue, but something they should have fixed for the SubZero.
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oo Nivek i just noticed you have union contacts on this board, which is the same as me, I was just wondering what size bindings do you have?
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M/L fit my T1 9.5 pretty solid. I ordered L/XL in the Force SL's for my Indoor FK and they just didnt fit right. Union says that L/XL fit 9.5 up, but I would say at the smallest 10 for L/XL. If you have a low volume boot go for the M/L, if your 10 is a little higher volume go for the L/XL. And if you want a not super soft binding then the SL's really match up well with the board, thats what is on it now for the kid who's riding it. He's buying them from me for his SubZero once he gets his.
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i already have boots that fit my L/XL contact Sls well, but i was just wondering what size binders you had cause i want to put my L/XLs on this sub zero i have been eyeing, but i am afraid my binding will drag, cause right now, they fit perfectly (like right on the edges of the top sheet) on my stairmaster, which i know is wider than the sub zero 152
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The L/XL SL's fit mine fine. You should be fine too
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