The battle of the Never Summers (Titan vs Premier F1) - Snowboarding Forum

stoepstyle · 02-23-2009, 02:48 PM

Ok so I officially put my Never Summer Legacy-R up for sale. I am looking at the Titan and the Premier F1. Who has these boards and can tell me about how they rode. Even better, who has ridden both and can tell me the differences. All i am getting from the reviews is that the boards are awsome at bombing and choppy snow.

Here are some specific questions
-How nimble are they for steep choppy chutes or runs where your making lots of jump turns?
-Lets say i see a biggg roller, natural hip jump on a hillside or wind lip and im pinning into it. How is it popping natural jumps? (no park or tricks just natural lips and stuff)

Thanks
-Kyle

1stTrack · 02-23-2009, 06:17 PM

Good question, I hope you get an answer from someone who has ridden both boards. I was looking at the same two boards for the same reasons, steep chutes in chopped up older snow. The other day I had the opportunity to demo an SL-R. I'm sure I was asking too much of the SL-R, but I found the board too soft for the steeps. The SL-R would bounce around in the crud and I found it difficult to maintain a decent line while carrying any speed through chopped up snow. At any rate I hope you get a response as I want to try the same two boards

stoepstyle · 02-23-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stTrack

I'm sure I was asking too much of the SL-R, but I found the board too soft for the steeps. The SL-R would bounce around in the crud and I found it difficult to maintain a decent line while carrying any speed through chopped up snow. At any rate I hope you get a response as I want to try the same two boards

Yeah I have the exact same problems that you had im just getting thrown around on my Legacy-R. Its allright for slower techy stuff but as soon as you start bombing your getting your eyeballs thrown out of your sockets

BurtonAvenger · 02-23-2009, 07:30 PM

I've owned both.

The Titan has a deeper more aggressive sidecut and a stiffer flex pattern to it. The premier f1 has a softer flex pattern slightly mellower side cut. The premier is more geared towards tree riding and pow turns while the titan is geared more for hard charging almost like you're racing BX.

stoepstyle · 02-23-2009, 07:35 PM

Thanks! Agg decisions decisions...

02-23-2009, 07:51 PM

I love my F1... it is an amazing board. Feels great bombing down the runs, tackles icy conditions like a champ, and I don't think twice about zigging in and out of the trees. Plus, the top sheet is pretty freaking sweet.

UncleRico · 02-24-2009, 12:16 AM

The Titan is a serious board, like the stiffest and most aggressive freeride board NS has. If you're going to be riding hairy conditions and be put in situations that require your board to have your back so you don't die down this chute today, then it just might be the board for you.

If not, the Premier is really good too

EDIT: My vote is for the Premier

stoepstyle · 02-24-2009, 12:46 AM

Ok I think im going with the premier in a 165 or 168. Thanks for the advice. Im not gnarly enough for a titan

gibbous · 02-24-2009, 01:45 AM

I have one Titan right now which is the second one I've owned, and I love this board. But as others have sort of indicated, it's not very forgiving so you have to be on top of your game the whole time. Nothing I have ridden carves as hard or turns as quickly considering its length, but get lazy for a couple seconds and you'll regret it. Also this board definitely does not like to slip sideways when speed checking, if I really slam on the brakes it starts hopping on me sooner than my other boards will.

I can't compare it to the new premier, but I also ride an older T5 (wide premier from about '04) which is a less demanding, but also slightly less capable board.

You might be making the right decision with the Premier if this will be basically your only board, it will let you ride the whole mountain without having to worry about small mistakes being magnified.

stoepstyle · 02-24-2009, 12:54 PM

What do you mean by the f1 can ride the whole mountain? Do you mean the park as well? Because I already have a park board.

Back to the titan:

What about jump turns through really steep mogulyish stuff?

and how does it pop off cliffs and natural lips? No park stuff I know

thanks
-Kyle

02-23-2009, 02:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
stoepstyle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in the K-town Posts: 699	The battle of the Never Summers (Titan vs Premier F1) Ok so I officially put my Never Summer Legacy-R up for sale. I am looking at the Titan and the Premier F1. Who has these boards and can tell me about how they rode. Even better, who has ridden both and can tell me the differences. All i am getting from the reviews is that the boards are awsome at bombing and choppy snow. Here are some specific questions -How nimble are they for steep choppy chutes or runs where your making lots of jump turns? -Lets say i see a biggg roller, natural hip jump on a hillside or wind lip and im pinning into it. How is it popping natural jumps? (no park or tricks just natural lips and stuff) Thanks -Kyle

02-23-2009, 07:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,045	I've owned both. The Titan has a deeper more aggressive sidecut and a stiffer flex pattern to it. The premier f1 has a softer flex pattern slightly mellower side cut. The premier is more geared towards tree riding and pow turns while the titan is geared more for hard charging almost like you're racing BX. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

02-23-2009, 07:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
stoepstyle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in the K-town Posts: 699	Thanks! Agg decisions decisions... Last edited by stoepstyle; 02-23-2009 at 07:38 PM.

02-24-2009, 12:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
stoepstyle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in the K-town Posts: 699	What do you mean by the f1 can ride the whole mountain? Do you mean the park as well? Because I already have a park board. Back to the titan: What about jump turns through really steep mogulyish stuff? and how does it pop off cliffs and natural lips? No park stuff I know thanks -Kyle Last edited by stoepstyle; 02-24-2009 at 12:57 PM.

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02-23-2009, 06:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
1stTrack Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 29	Good question, I hope you get an answer from someone who has ridden both boards. I was looking at the same two boards for the same reasons, steep chutes in chopped up older snow. The other day I had the opportunity to demo an SL-R. I'm sure I was asking too much of the SL-R, but I found the board too soft for the steeps. The SL-R would bounce around in the crud and I found it difficult to maintain a decent line while carrying any speed through chopped up snow. At any rate I hope you get a response as I want to try the same two boards

02-23-2009, 07:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
izibo Guest Posts: n/a	I love my F1... it is an amazing board. Feels great bombing down the runs, tackles icy conditions like a champ, and I don't think twice about zigging in and out of the trees. Plus, the top sheet is pretty freaking sweet.

02-24-2009, 12:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
UncleRico Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 103	The Titan is a serious board, like the stiffest and most aggressive freeride board NS has. If you're going to be riding hairy conditions and be put in situations that require your board to have your back so you don't die down this chute today, then it just might be the board for you. If not, the Premier is really good too EDIT: My vote is for the Premier

02-24-2009, 12:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
stoepstyle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in the K-town Posts: 699	Ok I think im going with the premier in a 165 or 168. Thanks for the advice. Im not gnarly enough for a titan

02-24-2009, 01:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
gibbous Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 170	I have one Titan right now which is the second one I've owned, and I love this board. But as others have sort of indicated, it's not very forgiving so you have to be on top of your game the whole time. Nothing I have ridden carves as hard or turns as quickly considering its length, but get lazy for a couple seconds and you'll regret it. Also this board definitely does not like to slip sideways when speed checking, if I really slam on the brakes it starts hopping on me sooner than my other boards will. I can't compare it to the new premier, but I also ride an older T5 (wide premier from about '04) which is a less demanding, but also slightly less capable board. You might be making the right decision with the Premier if this will be basically your only board, it will let you ride the whole mountain without having to worry about small mistakes being magnified.