Bent Metal Binders - Snowboarding Forum

03-16-2009, 10:40 PM

Has anyone used bent metal bindings. I ride all over the mountain in park and everything else. does bent metal have anything good for all around freeride and are they comfortable. any other pros and cons I want to know all about em

jmacphee9 · 03-17-2009, 12:55 AM

they are an all mt binding, super cushy straps, and rather heavy. some love some hate. ive never worn them but in your hands they feel fantastic. this is about the step ins at least, of course it depends on what model you are talking about.

03-17-2009, 02:09 AM

I was looking at the missionarys and the biscuits mainly

Zee · 03-24-2009, 04:22 PM

I have a pair of Missionary's on my Pow board. Simple, Light and functional. No complaints.

kingkoajmr · 03-24-2009, 07:19 PM

the toe strap on my buddy's biscuits broke after 4 trips. he said the stitching on nearly every strap is coming out too. he won't be buying another set of bent metals.

03-28-2009, 03:33 PM

You do not want bent metal, flow, or burton bindings. Bent metals are pretty basic, but their straps (the part that connects the cushy part to the base) feels really cheap, and the rachets dont feel like they will hold up (I ride super hard though). My buddy has some and he doesnt ride that hard and he has had problems with them. In my opinion flux bindings are some of the best bindings out there (as long as you dont get the base model) I had some Flux emblems from 2007 and tehy held up for 3 seasons, and about 3 weeks ago I got some flux Distortions and they have been every thing I've wanted. The super bendy high back doesnt feel much different from my Emblems but the rachets are much improved over my old emblems. The other nice thing about flux (if you are a jibber) is that flux makes a high end jib binding. First lets define "jib" binding" a jib binding is a binding with low response, good board feel, a lower profile high back or a flexible high back and you can tighten your boot down super gnarly (aka these bindings suck for mountain riding) it might also be nice if the binding has tooless adjustments just incase you do throw down in some back county. Most companies "jib bindings" are just a very low end model (such as the burton freestyle) Flux makes a couple lower end "jib bindings" but they also make the super emblem, distortion, and titian rk, which are all high end jib bindings.

As far as burton goes ... all of the toe caps, and strap part that connects the cushy part to the base are carp. I know lots of people that like them but all of them have had problems with them. A buddy of mine who was a pro for a while says that he loves burton bindings, he just didnt like to always have to worry about where he was gong to get parts from to fix them. If you go to a store and feel the male end of the strap of a burton bindings and compare it to a flux one ... theres no comparison, the burton straps are far inferior. I've also rode a number of burton bindings this year that were just plain uncomfortable because they put so much padding under your forefoot and heel and leave your arch to support itself.

I also know a guy who broke the heel cup on his p1's which is something that should never happen.

however it is nice that burton gives all of their bindings lifetime warranties but you still have to take the time to send it in and NOT ride.

I will give props to burton for their EST system. Its pretty tight that the binding can flex with the board, but snowboard boots aren't exactly as touchy feely as a vulc skate shoe, so I honestly doet know how big of a difference it can make, but i still give props to burton for their est system.

03-28-2009, 03:38 PM

one final note:

I'm not saying every one who likes bent metal's are liars because they aren't bad bindings, and they might even hold up for them (i'm possitive they wouldnt for me because I hike all the time which means im in and out of my bindings a lot (i broke my k2 www rocker in 2 weeks and i rode for 3 days each week ... and another one 3 weeks later)) all I'm saying is that there are better binding companies out there than bent metal.

union bindings are pretty nice but they are a little to stiff for me.

jmacphee9 · 03-28-2009, 05:33 PM

i like my flows and i ride them plenty hard enough, tons of people use burtons as well with not too many problems, burton truly does make a good binding no matter what burton haters say..you rarely hear about problems with them even taking into consideration how many more burton bindings there are out there then every other binding..

03-28-2009, 09:50 PM

yeah I've never really heard anything bad about burton bindings. I even have a pair of burton bindings the cheaper ones too and they have held up for 4 years and they are still kickin, I just want something new for my new board.

03-29-2009, 02:17 PM

honestly ... im not a jump on the bandwagon burton hater. Burton wasnt always bad either (in my opinion). But like two years ago every thing kidna started going down hill. I started out on a burton uninc, and liked it a lot, and yes burton does do some pretty progressive things, but the bottom line is, is that burton makes their straps way to flimsy, and their ratchets could use a rethink. (who else sells a replacement toe cap ... who else needs to ... also most companies will give u replacement parts for free)

If your a moderate rider (once a week maybe 5 hours) im sure your burtons held up, but I ride 3+ days a week for 8 hours of 70% hiking (yes im in good shape). All you people out there who like your burtons have you tried something else like ... union or even ride or possibly tech nine? Every one who I know who rides any hard like I do agrees with me about how flimsy burton bindings are. I also had a chance to ride some Co2's on a jibstick this year and I thought they were the most uncomfortable bindings i've ever had on my feet.

i've even rode some rosignols that were pretty nice ... better than burton so its not because i haven't given burton a chance.

I dont hate on burton because they are a huge company, I just hate how they do lots of pointless things, and they have yet to make a good jib deck (i've rode next years party rocker and next years fix and they both were garbage). in my opinion for every 1 good thing burton does it does 6 unforgivable things, however; i have noticed that burton is starting to step up their game ... ut its still not enough

03-16-2009, 10:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
AkrideR Guest Posts: n/a	Bent Metal Binders Has anyone used bent metal bindings. I ride all over the mountain in park and everything else. does bent metal have anything good for all around freeride and are they comfortable. any other pros and cons I want to know all about em

03-17-2009, 12:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
jmacphee9 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,335	they are an all mt binding, super cushy straps, and rather heavy. some love some hate. ive never worn them but in your hands they feel fantastic. this is about the step ins at least, of course it depends on what model you are talking about. __________________ Lib Tech Skate banana Flow NXT-FS Nike kaiju Burton [ak] 2l Cyclic Jacket Holden Northfield 3L pants

03-28-2009, 05:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
jmacphee9 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,335	i like my flows and i ride them plenty hard enough, tons of people use burtons as well with not too many problems, burton truly does make a good binding no matter what burton haters say..you rarely hear about problems with them even taking into consideration how many more burton bindings there are out there then every other binding.. __________________ Lib Tech Skate banana Flow NXT-FS Nike kaiju Burton [ak] 2l Cyclic Jacket Holden Northfield 3L pants

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03-17-2009, 02:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
AkrideR Guest Posts: n/a	I was looking at the missionarys and the biscuits mainly

03-24-2009, 04:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Zee -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,423	I have a pair of Missionary's on my Pow board. Simple, Light and functional. No complaints.

03-24-2009, 07:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
kingkoajmr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 139	the toe strap on my buddy's biscuits broke after 4 trips. he said the stitching on nearly every strap is coming out too. he won't be buying another set of bent metals.

03-28-2009, 03:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
keabler Guest Posts: n/a	You do not want bent metal, flow, or burton bindings. Bent metals are pretty basic, but their straps (the part that connects the cushy part to the base) feels really cheap, and the rachets dont feel like they will hold up (I ride super hard though). My buddy has some and he doesnt ride that hard and he has had problems with them. In my opinion flux bindings are some of the best bindings out there (as long as you dont get the base model) I had some Flux emblems from 2007 and tehy held up for 3 seasons, and about 3 weeks ago I got some flux Distortions and they have been every thing I've wanted. The super bendy high back doesnt feel much different from my Emblems but the rachets are much improved over my old emblems. The other nice thing about flux (if you are a jibber) is that flux makes a high end jib binding. First lets define "jib" binding" a jib binding is a binding with low response, good board feel, a lower profile high back or a flexible high back and you can tighten your boot down super gnarly (aka these bindings suck for mountain riding) it might also be nice if the binding has tooless adjustments just incase you do throw down in some back county. Most companies "jib bindings" are just a very low end model (such as the burton freestyle) Flux makes a couple lower end "jib bindings" but they also make the super emblem, distortion, and titian rk, which are all high end jib bindings. As far as burton goes ... all of the toe caps, and strap part that connects the cushy part to the base are carp. I know lots of people that like them but all of them have had problems with them. A buddy of mine who was a pro for a while says that he loves burton bindings, he just didnt like to always have to worry about where he was gong to get parts from to fix them. If you go to a store and feel the male end of the strap of a burton bindings and compare it to a flux one ... theres no comparison, the burton straps are far inferior. I've also rode a number of burton bindings this year that were just plain uncomfortable because they put so much padding under your forefoot and heel and leave your arch to support itself. I also know a guy who broke the heel cup on his p1's which is something that should never happen. however it is nice that burton gives all of their bindings lifetime warranties but you still have to take the time to send it in and NOT ride. I will give props to burton for their EST system. Its pretty tight that the binding can flex with the board, but snowboard boots aren't exactly as touchy feely as a vulc skate shoe, so I honestly doet know how big of a difference it can make, but i still give props to burton for their est system.

03-28-2009, 03:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
keabler Guest Posts: n/a	one final note: I'm not saying every one who likes bent metal's are liars because they aren't bad bindings, and they might even hold up for them (i'm possitive they wouldnt for me because I hike all the time which means im in and out of my bindings a lot (i broke my k2 www rocker in 2 weeks and i rode for 3 days each week ... and another one 3 weeks later)) all I'm saying is that there are better binding companies out there than bent metal. union bindings are pretty nice but they are a little to stiff for me.

03-28-2009, 09:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
AkrideR Guest Posts: n/a	yeah I've never really heard anything bad about burton bindings. I even have a pair of burton bindings the cheaper ones too and they have held up for 4 years and they are still kickin, I just want something new for my new board.

03-29-2009, 02:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
keabler Guest Posts: n/a	honestly ... im not a jump on the bandwagon burton hater. Burton wasnt always bad either (in my opinion). But like two years ago every thing kidna started going down hill. I started out on a burton uninc, and liked it a lot, and yes burton does do some pretty progressive things, but the bottom line is, is that burton makes their straps way to flimsy, and their ratchets could use a rethink. (who else sells a replacement toe cap ... who else needs to ... also most companies will give u replacement parts for free) If your a moderate rider (once a week maybe 5 hours) im sure your burtons held up, but I ride 3+ days a week for 8 hours of 70% hiking (yes im in good shape). All you people out there who like your burtons have you tried something else like ... union or even ride or possibly tech nine? Every one who I know who rides any hard like I do agrees with me about how flimsy burton bindings are. I also had a chance to ride some Co2's on a jibstick this year and I thought they were the most uncomfortable bindings i've ever had on my feet. i've even rode some rosignols that were pretty nice ... better than burton so its not because i haven't given burton a chance. I dont hate on burton because they are a huge company, I just hate how they do lots of pointless things, and they have yet to make a good jib deck (i've rode next years party rocker and next years fix and they both were garbage). in my opinion for every 1 good thing burton does it does 6 unforgivable things, however; i have noticed that burton is starting to step up their game ... ut its still not enough