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Old 03-24-2009, 09:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have the ICS three boards and never had the bolts loosen up- stop being a woman and just crank them down for christsake. I think it's better than anything out there by far. You can slide and turn the bindings wherever you want without messing with all those bolts everytime. The best thing is being right on the board without the base plate. Maybe it's not for everyone but I'll never go back to base plates.
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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You're missing the point. It's not that bolts are loosening up. It's that the connection point the bolts go through gets grooved out. Therefore your binder starts to shift, no matter how hard you tighten them down. This is because the design for the interface SUCKS.

I've seen this from three different people. Some people are sticking with it, and others are not. If Burton actually takes the criticism and fixes the issue, they might have something there. I suppose. I was seriously underwhelmed with ICS, and I did not experience the rocking issue either. That should happen when you are taking it for a demo day though.
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Ok I own a Burton Custom X and an X8. The Custom X 158 has probably 20 or more days on the slopes and I have yet had to tighten the bolts, never had em move one mm on me. I tagged teamed the ICS with EST Triads they broke about 15 days into the season, one of the ratchet screws came out and the toe strap came flyin off other than that. Really IMHO I like em, for me it's the being able to position them where ever I want and tweak it. Also I love burton products, ya flame me but I do, personal choice. ( Although I got a skate Banana lined up)!
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:31 AM   #14 (permalink)
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It's that the connection point the bolts go through gets grooved out. Therefore your binder starts to shift, no matter how hard you tighten them down. This is because the design for the interface SUCKS.
Yup that's my only concern
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You're missing the point. It's not that bolts are loosening up. It's that the connection point the bolts go through gets grooved out. Therefore your binder starts to shift, no matter how hard you tighten them down. This is because the design for the interface SUCKS.
OK, I lost you with "connection point" and "grooved out". But I have a Hero, Jussi and X8 and have about 45 full days between the three and nothing has ever moved. If it did I'd be like "what the hell is this" and send it back to Burton. I broke the nose off my first Jussi on a booter and they had a new one at my house four days later. I use a pair of Cartel gmp est's and the only problem with those are that I can never seem to get my boot all the way back in the binding so I have to keep tightening them up about half way down the mt. Same thing happens with my regular Co2's- that's life.
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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damn bro you got alot of money on your hands to be handling all this high-end burton gear : p


But yeah I wonder if Burton will stick with the ICS, seems like they've really invested it into all their top boards. I Think the idea of being right on the board seems pretty cool, but if your rockin a slightly longer boot wont it make it easier for your toe/heel to drag since its closer? or am I not visualizing it correctly in my minds eye?
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I would rather have 2 screws that are on the outside of my feet than 3 or 4 under my feet. I have been using ICS boards for the past 2 years and I have had no issues and love the adjustability. I can also feel a slight difference in how the boards ride, but it isn't huge.

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Old 03-25-2009, 09:06 AM   #18 (permalink)
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its awesome that you can have such great adjustability, but honestly, once i set up my board, its good for the whole season pretty much. i never adjust it again
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its awesome that you can have such great adjustability, but honestly, once i set up my board, its good for the whole season pretty much. i never adjust it again
That is generally the same with me. This year I did play with my setback on my Custom X (mainly because I could). But I can get the exact width and setback that I want, not what the inserts force me to have. I used to have to be centered on my board to have a 24" wide stance. That is no longer the case. After trying a few options, I am about a half inch back (right in between centered and the reference of 1" back.

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Old 03-27-2009, 12:22 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I've been riding the Custom X w/ the ICS setup for the last couple of months. You can use whatever bindings you want since it comes with an adapter plate, so you're not exactly locked in to one specific brand like people are saying. If you buy one of the EST bindings, then you'd be stuck since I don't think those are interchangeable, I could be wrong though.

Overall I'm happy with it. I haven't had the bolts loosen up on me and I feel just as secure as my old setup (three screws). I agree that it's a new gimmick that Burton has created to push more sales and to get you to stick w/ their brands, but it does function really well.
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