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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-21-2009, 05:58 PM
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ICS System, Any Good?

is it worth getting and is it hard to use?
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It's not worth paying more than a normal binding system.
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No, the simple fact that you have to commit yourself to a singular brand is retarded.

And if thats not enough, I snapped two est bolts within one month, whilst riding. I was lucky to walk away, you cant have gear doing that to you on big park jumps...
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No, the simple fact that you have to commit yourself to a singular brand is retarded.

And if thats not enough, I snapped two est bolts within one month, whilst riding. I was lucky to walk away, you cant have gear doing that to you on big park jumps...
ICS isnt that bad, but its not worth paying more for them.
the ICS is more adjusteble, fact. it sucks there arnt alot of bindings for it though
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It seems to me that having two mounting points potentially creates a pivot point on the board. I understand the binding is flat against the top of the board, but under heavy stress, when rocking back and forth, it seems that having at least three mounting points would do more to prevent any movement.

On the other hand, it doesnt ever seem to be an issue with wakeboards. Although Im not sure they take nearly the pressures/load of a snowboard.

I wonder if this will become a more common system industry-wide, or has Burton set this up to remain proprietary? Lack of options is too limiting for me. I love my '08 Burton Supermodel, and was disappointed that it was only available as ICS in 2009.
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It seems to me that having two mounting points potentially creates a pivot point on the board. I understand the binding is flat against the top of the board, but under heavy stress, when rocking back and forth, it seems that having at least three mounting points would do more to prevent any movement.

On the other hand, it doesnt ever seem to be an issue with wakeboards. Although Im not sure they take nearly the pressures/load of a snowboard.

I wonder if this will become a more common system industry-wide, or has Burton set this up to remain proprietary? Lack of options is too limiting for me. I love my '08 Burton Supermodel, and was disappointed that it was only available as ICS in 2009.
The pivot points are the biggest problem that I have seen with that system. It creates groves in the binding that make it perma pivot, no matter how hard you tighten them down. Seems to take about 20-30days of solid riding to get this to happen. The only reason Burton came up with ICS is because their craptacular 3d system patent has run out. Instead of getting with the program Burton decided it's better to make a system that only work with their products or forces other companies to liscense it.
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No, the simple fact that you have to commit yourself to a singular brand is retarded.
I agree

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I'll put it this way... When i'm bombing down a hill or hitting a 20+ foot booter i want more than 2 screws holding my foot into place.

Burton's "innovations" have only been to fill their wallets by making you stick to their product. Many other companies have real innovations that actually improve riding such as bataleon, never summer, and lib tech. All those companies are creating boards with new tech to make snowboarding more fun.

Burton seems to make boards with "new and improved" binding inserts. Last time i checked have 2, 3, or 4 screws attaching my bindings did not help me progress in the way actual innovations do.

Don't get me wrong though burton still makes some quality stuff, just most of the time they charge about 3 times more than they should for it.

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not worth it. it just makes u buy more burton thats all, and all pros seem to be outweighed by price and pivoting and not being to be able to use em on ne other board or ne other bindings
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I think it's awesome. I'v had to tighten the bolts one time this whole season, one time!! Its real easy to configure and the bindings can have more cushion on footbeds. I like it. Only thing is, now i need new bindings if i buy a new board. Still worth it though imo

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