DryRide Durashell 2L C
 

Guys and Gals,

i needed some new pants and decided to buy some off a pretty good website... however i didnt notice that it doesnt have an inner layer so its just a shell... i can probably wear thermals but i have used thermals and pants with an inner layer... so on those really cold days im wondering if a thermal and these pants will do... has anyone used these type of pants??

the pants are BURTON Men's Poacher Pants '09 - the description which i didnt read says:

Featured Technology:

DryRide Durashell 2L C - Technical weatherproofing and breathable properties in a buttery soft, bomber package for the rider on a budget. Additional insulations and linings can help fine-tune warmth and breathability.
Sig Fit - This is Burton’s tried-and-true cut - baggy, but not gigantic. At the request of their riders, they made the Sig Fit slightly longer for added style.
Mesh Lining - Burton’s 100% polyester mesh linings are a key part of a 2-layer jacket’s ability to wick away sweat and built-up moisture. It also protects the coating or lamination to ensure top-level waterproofing and breathability day after day.
Full Taped Seams - Every seam in these pants is taped to create the ultimate foul weather seal.

i can return these and buy some other pants but i like the fitting and the print on it...

I generally just buy shells. Exactly the type of pants that is in the description of yours. Mesh liners and that's it. Insulated pants are fine, but when the weather warms up, they can be a little too toasty. With these you can layer up. Get yourself some expedition weight thermals if you are worried about being too cold. Microfleece pants work great too, and you can wear a thermal layer under them easy enough. Powerstretch is another nice and warm base layer you could use. In short, I don't think you are going to have a problem.

most pants don't have any insulation past a bit of fleece (maybe) and mesh liner. the poacher pants are the cheapest pants burton makes and are barely waterpoof and barely breathable. with all the sales and stuff going on right now you should really look into better pants, they don't even have vents.

OK i have arranged to return them... i am thinking of buying the Groovstar crown pant... anyone have any other good suggestions.... ive decided to get some good pants whilst im at it..

I personally have pants that are just the Shell with a mesh liner. I wear some tighter-fitting warm up pants underneath that, and compression shorts. If it's really cold I'll double up on sweatpants. I've never had a problem being to warm/cold. Layers are your friend, lets you use the pants in any condition

Give me a break....
 

Have you really ever been on the mountain?! Sweat pants? Cotton?
Do yourself a favor - Under Armour Cold Gear - the $100 for top & bottom is well worth the
investment. Buy SHELLS only - pants & jackets. If you just so happen to be heliskiing somewhere
where it is -20 degrees, throw a layer of polypro fleece on.
Very simple. LEAVE THE COTTON AT HOME!!
... sweatpants... really?:cool:

i wear thermals and shells, just invested in some really good wool thermals and im set...