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bataleon Jam & never summer legacy-r

so after about a month and a half of researching different boards i have narrowed it down to two. The batalen Jam 161w and the Never Summer Legacy-R 161/163. TBT and the R/C both sound like awesome features. I do all mountain riding but remember i am east coast. Just wanted some input from you guys here who have ridden these. It sounds like R/C is more for powder, which obviously we dont get much here. Thanks in advance for comments/opinions.
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It's a toss up between Bataleon and Never Summer imo.... I went with The Jam in the end. But I didn't do it because I feel the TBT tech is better, but because hardly anyone has Bataleons here in CO.

My advice to you is to get the Never Summer.... The 3 year warranty is HUGE. I was leaning a bit towards NS but the fact that Bataleons are rarely seen here sold me on it. I'm way anti having the same shit as everybody else.

The NS will be better on the East Coast ice
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so after about a month and a half of researching different boards i have narrowed it down to two. The batalen Jam 161w and the Never Summer Legacy-R 161/163. TBT and the R/C both sound like awesome features. I do all mountain riding but remember i am east coast. Just wanted some input from you guys here who have ridden these. It sounds like R/C is more for powder, which obviously we dont get much here. Thanks in advance for comments/opinions.
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The Legacy will have the vario grip which will help grip on icy conditions and is also more of an all mountain board. The R/C tech will help in powder but has other benefits. It will give you a different feel but if you have never ridden a R/C board you should before you buy it if possible.

Never ridden one so could not tell you much about the Jam. I am sure a few other will chime in on it though.

For reference I will be riding a NS Heritage-R this year.

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B.Gilly and Milo303 are steering you right. I can respect Milo303 for wanting to ride something different and at the same time having the brains to pick something a company is committed to and works well. I want to point out though that our boards (NS) have always been the most stable boards at speed and have had amazing edge hold. The RC/Vario enhances what we have always had. B.Gilly's Heritage for example has the same extensive rubber dampening, carbon fiber configuration, legendary p-tex sidewall. Adding the rocker keeps gives the board incredible float in pow/wet snow, more forgiving and surfy feel and easier to recover. Having the camber outside the bindings gives it insane pop/spring out of the tail while still pushing down on the tip while pressing into the tip in a carve. Top it off with the 3 year warranty Milo303 mentioned, how can you go wrong picking the American made Legacy.

B.Gilly enjoy your Heritage, and Milo303 I'll look for you at Loveland on Oct.14th!

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the warranty and the fact that i dont think i have ever read a bad review of NS has pushed me towards them. I have been looking at the Heritage-xr as well, but cant decide what the major difference is between the two. also i am 6'2-6'3 an weight about 235-240, athletic not fat, should i go 161, 163? not that big of a difference i know......
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talso i am 6'2-6'3 an weight about 235-240, athletic not fat, should i go 161, 163? not that big of a difference i know......
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Stacks, funny that you bring this post up. I was in a very similar situation last year. I am also the same size. I ended up getting the Goliath, they had it 40% off at a local shop. It is a fun board, but the one thing I don't like about it, in spring slush, the tbt would suck itself into the chop.

I am cosnidering picking up the Legacy-R this year. And I think I would go with the 163. The Goliath is a 161.
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ya i think the 163 would better handle my weight, i dont think the 2cm difference will matter as far as spins and hitting the park. Thank you guys, i will be ordering this tonight or tomorrow morning bright and early!! Legacy-R 163
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I will vouch for the warranty as well. Vince and the rest of the crew at NS are sick! I sent my revolver in for a warranty repair on an edge peel and they called me back a few days later ASKING to fix the rest of my board. That included 8 core shots (on the biggest the replaced part of the core and a 2"x12" base replacement), 3 edge cracks, and a big dent on my edge that rippled the base. They did all for pennies compared to what i would've paid at a shop. Best customer service I've ever encountered, and not just snowboarding, ANY customer service.

get the NS (if you gonna hit the park, check out the revolver, it does everything i ask it to.)

Vince, you the man, keep it up
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too funny. i have both boards, jam 161w and legacy-r 166w. ill just say im getting rid of the jam soon and plan on picking up a 159 or 161 legacy-r for my everyday board. the 166 only comes out for the steep and deep.
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