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10-07-2009, 09:14 PM

I need help decideing on Ratcheted boots or laced boots, I just went to Zumiez today and the Manager claimed that Thirtytwo has fixed their ratchet system on a pair of their new 2010 boots, but my friends are saying i should stick to laced, WHAT SHOULD I DO??????!!!!!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!

Tatsuya2092

Nivek · 10-07-2009, 09:22 PM

Just go with whats most comfortable. I'm assuming the ratchets you're talking about are the BOA system cable laces with the dial. BOA is a company of its own that puts there product on others. So Thirty Two has nothing to do with the BOA Dial or cables. Placement of guides is dependent on the comany, but thats all.

Tell them this. And if you live anywhere near CO Springs, come to my store, I'll get you set-up properly.

Triple8Sol · 10-07-2009, 09:32 PM

By ratchet, you mean Boa? Do a SEARCH.

VietOne · 10-07-2009, 09:42 PM

Boas or Speed laces are stiffer than normal laces.

Laces also offer a better degree of being able to place pressure where you want it to be. People will claim Boa can offer similar but nothing beats how comfortable that laces can get compared. This is because there are so many crosses in laces that it stays in place better as the friction from every turn of the lace keeps them in place better.

Boas and Speedzone have fewer crosses and fewer friction points. When you flex your foot, the strands will move around and affect the pressure in certain areas. This happens to a lesser degree on laces. So when you dial in the system and go boarding, after a few runs of carving you can tell the difference when the laces shift around. But this can also be countered with stiffer boots.

There are advantages to Boa and similar systems, they can be tightened down more than laces. I don't know of anyone who has been able to tighten their laces like you can with Boa.

In the end, its something you need to try on and see for yourself. There is a reason why a lot of park riders use laces cause of the reasons I stated above. A lot of freeriders I know like Boas cause it offers a tighter fit and with stiff boots, pressure points aren't much of an issue.

10-09-2009, 03:44 PM

Thanks all, i take everyhing into consideration

AWNOW · 10-10-2009, 09:56 PM

Beating a dead horse; whatever boot fits the best and is most comfortable will work. Both lacing systems are competent.

10-10-2009, 10:29 PM

I've had both and prefer laces easily.

arsenic0 · 10-15-2009, 03:59 PM

I've had both and prefer speedlaces, regular laces tend to loosen up after several hours and i got tired of having to re-adjust them ..they feel fine when im down in the parking lot but once i do a run you realize if its too tight or too loose...speed laces takes me 10 seconds to fix..regular laces i gotta sit my ass in the snow for 10 minutes to retighten from the bottom laces...

I'd like to try some of the dual zone boa's for my next boots. IMHO i would only get BOA if it was a dual zone BOA...

Glade Ripper · 10-17-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by arsenic0

I'd like to try some of the dual zone boa's for my next boots. IMHO i would only get BOA if it was a dual zone BOA...

That's what I have and wouldn't go any other way. I have 32 Focus boa 2009 and Vans Aura 2010. The 32s are very stiff but the aura is a mid stiff boot.

If you do go single boa someone suggested on here once that leaning forward while tightening at first will tighten the bottom of the boot more than the top. Putting this suggestion to use, I was at my local shop trying on boots and it in fact did seem to work a little. Still wouldn't buy a single boa but that is a useful trick if you have them.

v-verb · 10-17-2009, 08:26 PM

my buddy's BOA boot system broke last year. Laces for me

10-07-2009, 09:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
tatsuya2092 Guest Posts: n/a	**------Ratcheted Boots or Standard Laces------*** I need help decideing on Ratcheted boots or laced boots, I just went to Zumiez today and the Manager claimed that Thirtytwo has fixed their ratchet system on a pair of their new 2010 boots, but my friends are saying i should stick to laced, WHAT SHOULD I DO??????!!!!!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!! Tatsuya2092

10-07-2009, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,367	Just go with whats most comfortable. I'm assuming the ratchets you're talking about are the BOA system cable laces with the dial. BOA is a company of its own that puts there product on others. So Thirty Two has nothing to do with the BOA Dial or cables. Placement of guides is dependent on the comany, but thats all. Tell them this. And if you live anywhere near CO Springs, come to my store, I'll get you set-up properly. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-07-2009, 09:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Triple8Sol Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,686 Blog Entries: 1	By ratchet, you mean Boa? Do a SEARCH. __________________ 14 NeverSummer Proto HD . 13 Never Summer Cobra . 12 Gnu Rider's Choice C2PTX 13 Now IPO . 12 K2 Formula . 11 K2 Formula 13 NB x 686 580

10-15-2009, 03:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
arsenic0 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 2,106	I've had both and prefer speedlaces, regular laces tend to loosen up after several hours and i got tired of having to re-adjust them ..they feel fine when im down in the parking lot but once i do a run you realize if its too tight or too loose...speed laces takes me 10 seconds to fix..regular laces i gotta sit my ass in the snow for 10 minutes to retighten from the bottom laces... I'd like to try some of the dual zone boa's for my next boots. IMHO i would only get BOA if it was a dual zone BOA... __________________ '09 151 Never Summer SL-R '10 K2 T1 DB Bots '09 Burton Cartel Bindings

10-17-2009, 08:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
v-verb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 362	my buddy's BOA boot system broke last year. Laces for me __________________ 09 Bataleon Evil Twin 55 08 Bataleon Fun.Kink 53 08 Bataleon Enemy 61

10-07-2009, 09:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
VietOne Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 22	Boas or Speed laces are stiffer than normal laces. Laces also offer a better degree of being able to place pressure where you want it to be. People will claim Boa can offer similar but nothing beats how comfortable that laces can get compared. This is because there are so many crosses in laces that it stays in place better as the friction from every turn of the lace keeps them in place better. Boas and Speedzone have fewer crosses and fewer friction points. When you flex your foot, the strands will move around and affect the pressure in certain areas. This happens to a lesser degree on laces. So when you dial in the system and go boarding, after a few runs of carving you can tell the difference when the laces shift around. But this can also be countered with stiffer boots. There are advantages to Boa and similar systems, they can be tightened down more than laces. I don't know of anyone who has been able to tighten their laces like you can with Boa. In the end, its something you need to try on and see for yourself. There is a reason why a lot of park riders use laces cause of the reasons I stated above. A lot of freeriders I know like Boas cause it offers a tighter fit and with stiff boots, pressure points aren't much of an issue.

10-09-2009, 03:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
tatsuya2092 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks all, i take everyhing into consideration

10-10-2009, 09:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
AWNOW Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 703	Beating a dead horse; whatever boot fits the best and is most comfortable will work. Both lacing systems are competent.

10-10-2009, 10:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
robbied Guest Posts: n/a	I've had both and prefer laces easily.

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