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Freeride/Pow quiver board selection and size?

Hi all, I'm looking for a powder board to add to the quiver, and with huge amount of choice out there I'm really starting to get a bit lost. I'm an out and out Freerider, only using piste to get to get off it - though I won't claim to be the best rider ever for sure, especially I never realy spent the time to learn tricks and big jumps or anything! But I do live near enough to the alps to ride at weekends, rather than being the one or two holidays a year type.

However this year I'm planning to spend 10 days riding in Japan for some real pow and thought it's time I add a genuine Pow board to the quiver - but I've not had many snowboards in my life and struggle to choose, nor ever ridden a true pow board, but want something for this trip, as well as those rare pow days in Europe. Bearing this in mind, it should be something that is eipc in pow, but can also be ridden across crud and rubbish to get to it - in Europe that's a necessity, and especially as what pow there is tends to get used up very quickly!

Mostly I currently ride a 2012(ish) Arbor A-frame 162 - pure camber charger, I like its stability, and though it's not bad in pow, it is still quite hard work on the back leg, and needs a LOT of speed to really start floating. That might be due to my weight though - kitted out I'll get up to 110kg (which at 5'11 is pretty hefty), which is a bit over most boards recommended range!

I also have a Rome Anthem SS 159 hyrbid, also a reasonably stiff board, but more towards all-mountain.

SO I've narrowed to a few choices - (and open to others)
1. Jones Hovercraft/Ultracraft 160 - I like the idea of camber between the feet for power and the rocker nose/short tail. seems a senible solution for me, but anyone have experience with them, or which to recommend of these two very similar boards? I'm told the Hovercraft is a bit soft - but It's been many years since I rode a softer board... I just dont know really how much difference it makes! I know these boards ride longer than they are, but will it be big enough for effortless float with rider weight in mind?

2. Jones Hovercraft 164 - extra size for added float, but would it turn into a bit of a barge - effectively riding more towards a 170 than 160??

3. West Six Carro 160 - a small swiss company that I found in a local shop, the board has a similar idea ot teh hovercraft but with a more pronounced camber between the feet, and slightly wider at its widest. It's stiffer than a hovercraft, and the guy in the shop says its a good board - paticularly to punch through crud and ice, but the hovercraft has been perfected over the years by a much bigger company with better research budgets!

4. Arbor Cosa Nostra/Shreddy Kreuger 162 - meant o be good, though will its rocker profile be a good idea compared to the Jones? how big a handling differeence will they give?

5. Capita Spring Break - 165 thingy witthe hole in it - looks great, any ideas how it will actually ride when compared to say the hovercraft or Arbor?

I'm really trying to get an idea of how they compare to each other to actually ride in teh deep stuff, as well as getting to the deep stuff - and most reviews tend not to say much in terms of comparisons.

Shoud I be looking at something bigger, with my over-average rider weight?

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disclaimer...never rode j-pow...idk...I'm 80kg and my pow board in the usual fairly dense/wet pow (pnw maritime) that is 45-60+cm depth is a charlie slasher164...so me thinks at 110kg you ought to be in at least 180cm+ for a pow cannon.


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Dupraz D1? You could get a stiffer than standard flex on the 5.5 or jump up to the 6.0. I haven't heard anything negative. My wife loves her board, including freeriding in Austria last year. When we got back I picked up a very similarl board - Prior Fissile - that I am getting to know now. Great float and stability, but with significant sidecut it also carves beautifully.
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Dupraz D1? You could get a stiffer than standard flex on the 5.5 or jump up to the 6.0. I haven't heard anything negative. My wife loves her board, including freeriding in Austria last year. When we got back I picked up a very similarl board - Prior Fissile - that I am getting to know now. Great float and stability, but with significant sidecut it also carves beautifully.
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164 Hovercraft sounds just like the ticket for you. Will float amazing and keep in mind that it is basically the same size as your current boards.

Don't know the West, but it looks like a Hovercraft clone so could be good too. Has quite a bit more taper.

The Arbor decks could work but with thi full rocker profile will be a very different ride from what you are used to.
Spring Break boards are one trick ponies. Great float for powder cruising but not for hard riding and suck in crud and chop.
Dupraz not recommended for Japan and what you are describing.
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That would be great choice too. Also some Burton boards like the gatekeeper.
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disclaimer...never rode j-pow...idk...I'm 80kg and my pow board in the usual fairly dense/wet pow (pnw maritime) that is 45-60+cm depth is a charlie slasher164...so me thinks at 110kg you ought to be in at least 180cm+ for a pow cannon.
I think wrath nailed it.

A 183 quiver Cannon
I just picked one up locally for someone and shipped it fuck did it ever look nice


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I think wrath nailed it.

A 183 quiver Cannon
I just picked one up locally for someone and shipped it fuck did it ever look nice


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Hmmmm...
OP, I wouldn't base the size decision on ppls experience with totally different type of snow (sorry TT).

I've ridden in Japan too few days to dare a recommendation. What was striking is that snow is such a different animal from what we in the Alps have or also to the dense maritime Alaskan snow. It's like a cloud of downs you fly through than snow you ride on. The snow in Colorado seemed similarly light/fluffy. In heavy/dense snow one absolutely wants to have the board floating on snow, in the fluffy Japan stuff your in the snow anyway. I doupt that it's the aim to go longer to stay ontop. Too long might be hindring cos - at least where I was - trees were pretty dense. Something agile would have been great. My big turns big mtn board was bit bulky

We haven't been lucky to get one of those bottomless deep days so I'm also in the dark what sort of board one needs for this. I've seen tiny guys with huge decks, but also with small boards.
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5. Capita Spring Break - 165 thingy witthe hole in it - looks great, any ideas how it will actually ride when compared to say the hovercraft or Arbor?
I have many powder boards and ridden many and the capita spring break powder wolf 165 is by far the best powder boards i've ridden. It rips in the deep I rode in waist deep on monday and it rips on groomers too. Just make sure you have plenty of base down so you don't get caught on a root or log. Super fun board. Its gonna be hard to grab anything else on a pow day. That huge nose with 92mm of taper its unsinkable.

I've only ridden the hover craft out of the boards on the list you have. The springbreaks are way more lively and fun surfy. The hovercraft in my opinion is missing that fun factor kind of stale ride to me. But haven't ridden one since 2012 or so. I'd recommend any of the capita springbreak decks or the nitro quiver decks. I'd stay away from yes 420 or 20/20 I didn't like them they don't float like the Pow Wolf or tree hunter.

Also don't get last years powder hole to save money it doesn't have a sidecut which is useless on groomers.






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