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Old 01-12-2010, 02:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've always had a problem with numb, painful feet throughout my days of snowboarding. It's the same sick cycle every time. Go down the hill, feet go numb due to pinched nerve, feet start to hurt, feet get cold. Then you get to the bottom of the hill, loosen your bindings, wiggle your feet around trying to get some feeling back in them as you're riding lift back up. Rinse, repeat.

Then come the questions. Is it my boots? Are my bindings not set up correctly? Are my socks too thick? Does my insole suck? Are my legs and feet mangled beyond repair? Was I born disfigured? :P

Anyhow, It's a little bit of all of this of course. But I've heard this a million times, from the Angry Snowboarder to skiers to board shop dudes; "They go to the trouble of making an amazing boot, and they give you insoles that aren't worth the material they're made from."

And it's true. I was in a board shop just last week in New Hartford New York (Bikes and Boards, great guys). Anyhow, one of the dude who worked there was fitting on a pair of $720 ski boots for backcountry skiing. His insoles looked like they would fit in a size 8 boot, and his boots were size 11. Not only that, it had zero support. Instead they just scrunched up and he was better off without them.

Anyway, I had my boots heat molded, and we identified pressure points and adjusted the boots properly. I was also fitted for a pair of Aline insoles. The shop set me up on a little machine that ensured the best alignment for the insoles and I have to say, they feel right. I have a falling arch and although they do not mold to your feet like other insoles, for me, they seemed to support the structure of my foot and shape it the way it's supposed to be shaped. Very comfy, and sadly, better than my custom orthotics!

After all is said and done, my feet aren't numb anymore, so far. I only tried them once since, but to be fair I really need to ride a lot more on these insoles to give a good review. It's worth noting that I've never gone without numb, painful feet though, so once is a big achievement.


TLDR(Too Long Didn't Read); Insoles matter!

I would really like to try out a bunch and find the best one, but as I said above, it's more than just the insole. But honestly I think a good insole will make the most dramatic difference. Of all of your snowboarding equipment, don't cheap out on boots or insoles. I argue it's the most important part of your setup. They can make your day amazing or terrible, no matter if you're shredding on a piece of plywood with adjustable metal roller skates (sans wheels) or the sickest space-age board and bindings combo.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yup i agree...some time last year i decided, hey what the hell ill get some Superfeet for my snowboarding boots..if they dont work worst case ill use them in my regular shoes...

Now i love them as they give much more support to my feet allowing me to go longer. Atleast for me with my current boots(Burton Rulers) that fit well and were comfy, actually made them better by putting some Superfeet in it. The reason i found was that because its a thicker insole than the ghetto crap burton puts in, it raises my foot in the boot closer to the top. This gives me a snugger fit on my bottom zone without having to crazy tighten it down and without any lose of control or ankle movement...

For the record ive used both Superfeet Orange last year(now in my shoes) and this year i got some of their Superfeet RedHOT specifically for ski/boarding boots and they work well too. Kinda spendy, but well worth the money.
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Yup i agree...some time last year i decided, hey what the hell ill get some Superfeet for my snowboarding boots..if they dont work worst case ill use them in my regular shoes...

Now i love them as they give much more support to my feet allowing me to go longer. Atleast for me with my current boots(Burton Rulers) that fit well and were comfy, actually made them better by putting some Superfeet in it. The reason i found was that because its a thicker insole than the ghetto crap burton puts in, it raises my foot in the boot closer to the top. This gives me a snugger fit on my bottom zone without having to crazy tighten it down and without any lose of control or ankle movement...

For the record ive used both Superfeet Orange last year(now in my shoes) and this year i got some of their Superfeet RedHOT specifically for ski/boarding boots and they work well too. Kinda spendy, but well worth the money.
Yeah, I've heard of super feet. I'll have to check their website. The money is well worth it though. Here's aline's website if you're interested in their tech: http://www.aline.com/

And about manufacturers not putting good insoles in their boots- I can totally understand why. Each person's foot is different so they don't want to waste money because it would drive the average cost for the consumer upward, and might not provide sufficient benefit across the board to justify the added cost.

That's all fine and well, but I really think boot manufacturers should go to the trouble of alerting the consumer that a good insole is the best way to go for anyone. And as far as ski shops go - I've even been to several, and not one has ever recommended an insole while you're boot shopping unless you specifically tell them your feet bother you. So newbies to the sport have to find out the hard way, and eventually come back and ask later (or endure the pain needlessly). Preventative maintenance is the best route.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Check out Shred Soles

ShredSoles - Your Feet Will Thank You

I have not ridden in them yet but the owner and founder is a friend of a friend. I'm trying to get my friend to get us a couple pairs to demo next week so if I'm successful I'll report back.

Dude is legit and is a very successful guy in the board industry. Snow and skate.

I really like the cantered aspect of these insoles, can't wait to try them out.
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those shred soles look sick. i totally will look into them!
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Check out Shred Soles

ShredSoles - Your Feet Will Thank You

I have not ridden in them yet but the owner and founder is a friend of a friend. I'm trying to get my friend to get us a couple pairs to demo next week so if I'm successful I'll report back.

Dude is legit and is a very successful guy in the board industry. Snow and skate.

I really like the cantered aspect of these insoles, can't wait to try them out.
That's a pretty cool idea. Problem with that heat moldable material, is I imagine your feet will bottom out in areas. It would be neat to see the canted footbed mixed with this tech REMIND INSOLES.

It's funny because as I look at shredsoles, my alines, and these remind insoles, the three techs combined would make the ultimate snowboard boot insole. None of them have the cant of the Shred Sole, and it also appears the Shred Sole has the highest arch, which is great. Although the Remind Insoles have viscoelastic gel, I see the shock absorbing ridges of the Alines as more beneficial and more carefully engineered and supportive. Then finally the EVA foam from the Remind Insole would be great for a more custom fit than the Aline.
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You want all three combined just get a full custom footbed something from the Bootworx line or close to that. Speaking of shred soles wonder where mine are.
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You want all three combined just get a full custom footbed something from the Bootworx line or close to that. Speaking of shred soles wonder where mine are.
I just googled bootworx insoles, and this thread is at the top of the results. Do you have a link by any chance? Yeah I'm thinking about a full custom orthotic like I have for my shoes, but still, custom orthotics don't have the kind of tech implemented like the canted footbed of the shred soles or the BFAST or rib tech of the alines.
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Um have you ever talked to a ski boot fitter? I can cant a footbed, notch the arch, grind the toe, manipulate whatever. It might be spelled bootwerx or bootworks my brains shot 3 long days in the sun shredding and one giant slam.
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Um have you ever talked to a ski boot fitter? I can cant a footbed, notch the arch, grind the toe, manipulate whatever. It might be spelled bootwerx or bootworks my brains shot 3 long days in the sun shredding and one giant slam.
Good point, except that the alines still have tech that can't be copied by a boot fitter. All in all, you're probably right, a complete custom solution would be the best.

Oh btw, I think this is what you were talking about?
http://footworx.biz/product1.htm
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