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REVIEW: 2010 Flux Super Titan bindings

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#1 · (Edited)
Super stoked b/c my 2010 Flux Super Titans arrived earlier this week. I got them from Blase Gilmore of Gilly's Boardshop in MA. If you don't already know, he's a fellow Snowboarding Forum member, B. Gilly If any of you are thinking of picking up a pair of Flux bindings or a Never Summer board, this is your guy! He's one of the only authorized Flux retailers in his area and he knows his shit, so he can answer any/all your questions. I'm sure he'll be able to hook you up with a smoking deal on the right gear for you. Just email him through his shop's website or PM him on this forum.

They come with an extra replacement ankle and toe ladder strap, as well as an Elm beanie. Cool bonuses I wasn't expecting initially. Haven't had a chance to take them on the hill yet, but I'll update as soon as I have a couple days out with them. I did spend over an hour making adjustments to everything. The adjustment options are almost identical to those on my Rome 390's and Targas, except that everything on the Flux is tool-less. This is great, which means you can fine tune them on the fly, as well as making a couple simple adjustments so a friend could try them out for a couple runs or something. When I rotated the backs, they ended up at a bit of a strange angle, both vertically and within the heelcup. Another factor is that my boots are at the upper size limits of the binding, along with the way the ladder straps are mounted inside the heelcup, so with such a tight fit in the heelcup as it is, there isn't much room to spare when the highback is tweaked. To be fair, I've always ended up leaving the highbacks as is on all my bindings I've tried rotating the highback on.

I was surprised that they actually felt heavier than I expected, so I decided to bust out my postal scale and actually weigh them. I only weighed one foot, so x2 for a set. Here are the actual weights including mounting screws for each and baseplate covers as applicable (all but the Super Titans) for all the bindings I have lying around the house right now. What this means and how much it matters (if at all) depends on several factors like the weight of your board to begin with, your true skill level, application, etc...

Weights in lbs.
2.19 - Rome 390
2.31 - Rome Targa
2.38 - Union Force
2.44 - Flux Super Titan
2.46 - Flux Feedback
2.50 - Union Data
2.56 - Ride NRc
2.69 - Ride CAD

My initial impressions are very good...these bindings feel solid with a fore/aft flex similar to my Targas, as well as similar torsional play. This should equal a nice all mountain freestyle binding. I'm loving the look of, and theory behind, the streamlined frame with the adjustment cover plate things. I do wish the little button did a better job of popping it open further, or maybe if they integrated a small notch on the edge of the cover somewhere, so that it's a little easier to open without fingernails. The ladder guides seem to work better than those on Targa ankle strapa and Union toe straps, which catch sometimes, but we'll have to see how well these work on the mtn. The ankle straps are very cushy, almost as soft as the gel-like 390's. When researching I heard great things about the toecap, and I have to say I'm very impressed too. I took it apart and inside, the plastic skeleton looks much like the latest capstraps from K2 and Burton w/the hole in the middle. It fits my K2 T1 DB boots very well. I currently have my boots strapped down tight in the bindings, as I always do with new ones, so that they're already molded a bit before I actually get out and use them.

So what are my complaints/criticisms? The only thing I have come up with so far is that I wish they had some sort of baseplate cover so that the entire sole of my boot has a uniformly level surface to rest on. I haven't owned a set without a cover since 4 seasons ago, so we'll see if I notice a difference in practice. Like I said previously, I'll update with more impressions as I get a chance to spend a couple days with them on the mtn.
 
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#2 ·
So what are my complaints/criticisms? The only thing I have come up with so far is that I wish they had some sort of baseplate cover so that the entire sole of my boot has a uniformly level surface to rest on. I haven't owned a set without a cover since 4 seasons ago, so we'll see if I notice a difference on the mtn. Like I said previously, I'll update with more impressions as I get a chance to spend a couple days with them in use.
My only complaint about the titan rks is this exactly. The rest of the binding more than makes up for the base though.:thumbsup:
 
#6 ·
Looking forward to your impressions on the mountain.

The only downside I have come across so far with flux is with boot compatibility.

The ankle straps are kinda tricky at first to snap in on the mountain. From what I have noticed it is the ladder guide that seems to cause the catch. Seems a bit stiff and causes the ankle strap to not want to bend correctly for slipping the strap in.
 
#7 ·
Thanks for the review man! Can you change binding angles on the fly too? And how secure do the tool-less adjustments feel? I know they're designed well enough so they probably won't come off or anything while riding but is there any wiggle room making it feel a little looser than screws?
 
#8 · (Edited)
All adjustments are tool less. They lock in very well and snap back into a place that secures them so no loosening. Not had any issues so far this season with the adjustments coming loose.

edit- at first saw bindings angles as the highbacks. Still the same if you want to change your stance angles. Loosen the baseplate not the same as ICS. Even though flux does have an adapter disk for burtons channel boards.
 
#14 ·
Bad news first. There was some kind of inventory mixup with the Feedbacks that I thought were already on the way to me. After waiting all this time, I'm back to square one on that. Hopefully I'll come across another good deal on a set, but seems unlikely from what I've seen so far.

Good news is that I did get to try out the Super Titans for a full day yesterday. Mounted them to my 2010 Bataleon Omni 159. Going up again tomorrow, but this time will have them mounted on my 2010 Never Summer SL-R 158 instead. I'll update after I have impressions from 2 days on 2 different boards and 2 different mountains to share.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Well, after riding with these for two full days on two different boards, I can tell you I'm definitely pleased with them. Despite what was mentioned before, I didn't have a single problem with the ladders. They slid right into the L-guides every single time. The ratchets engage very smoothly, and release very easily. These ratchets might be as good as those on Romes, and are much better than those on Unions and Ride's NRC/CAD, both of which sometimes stick and take more effort to release.

The straps also proved to be very comfortable, especially the toe cap. After molding to my boot further after the first day, they were perfect the second day. There is no chance of them slipping, unlike Unions which do slip occasionally. The toestraps are just as secure as those on Rome/Ride binders.

Felt more foot fatigue than usual after day 1, but I can't say for sure if it had to do with the lack of a baseplate cover. Either way, I still wish they had one to make the entire footbed flat/even, so I've been contemplating making my own. Basically just drill/tap a hole in the center of the mounting disc, then screw something down on top. Still trying to figure out what kind of material I would use for the actual cover. As another option, I'm considering sourcing a pair of mounting discs and baseplate covers from the Flux Feedback and just running those, if they're not too expensive. Gotta do some more research to see if they would swap right over without modification. Too bad that set I ordered didn't come in, otherwise I could've easily figured this one out by now.

Ran them with some forward lean the first day, 1 click front and 2 clicks rear. They seemed to be lacking some response, so I dialed in an extra click and ended up with 2 clicks front and 3 clicks rear. That seemed to help quite a bit. I might try to dial in another click when I go up again tomorrow. We'll see if it results in an improvement, without exhausting my legs.
 
#21 ·
Okay took a few crappy photos to show the issue I have seen with boots fitting.

Boot not sitting against highback but flush with baseplate:
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Boot flush with highback but does not sit flush on baseplate:
View attachment 2816

Sorry for crappy photos but was on my crappy camera forgot my good one at home. This should give you an idea though. Main issue seems to be the back of some boots just do not sit correctly against the high back and cause heel lift in the binding. As an example took a few photos of my boots in a pair of bindings. Same manufacturers for boots different models. See the issue on St more then the other models.

Check next post for correct fitting
 
#26 ·
They're working out great! I've determined that they're as good as my Rome Targas, and better than my Union Forces and Ride NRC's. It just sucks that I wasn't able to get my hands on those Flux Feedbacks since I suspect that they might even be a little better for me. Still hunting for those...
 
#28 · (Edited)
Did you read my prior posts? Lighter, completely tool-less, better ankle and/or toe straps that don't slip, ratchets are smooth and don't stick, etc...

As far as style, I spend most of my time threading through the trees and traversing and ducking rope out to the sidecountry, and occasionally hiking ridges. Pretty much just bomb groomers to get back to a lift, or hit the sides if there are any hits along the way. Don't mess with rails, just the occasional box and haven't gone bigger than 45 footers in the park.
 
#31 ·
just got a pair as well. compared to my forces, they are more responsive and more comfortable. it's true that you don't even feel them on your feet, also, the toe strap is alot better than the forces, theres no way its going to slip off your boot. on the other hand, i think the forces have a bit more damping as they have more padding on the footbed and base. and as for the weight, they are a tad heavier and i noticed while carrying my board but i couldn't notice while riding.

my complaints are that i think the ladder straps need to be a bit longer. you have to put some effort into guiding the straps into the ratchets, but hopefully it gets easier as i break em in more.

these bindings have a good response (a bit more than my forces) but aren't overly responsive as they are a mid-stiff binding. they have good amount of play as i didn't have problems buttering or pressing. also, the highback really helped when digging in heelside carves. i ride everyday and i have 3 months left to ride so we'll see how durable they are.

excellent bindings.
 
#33 ·
Hey good review...I like that you've been able to ride other relavent bindings to compare them to. Did you ever get the feedbacks? I've noticed they have all the same options of the Super Titans just instead of the Smooth Super Blend 45 baseplate they have the the Genetic Super Blend 45 baseplate which I find more appealing, with a different (maybe stiffer?) highback. Just wanted to know how they rode compared to the super titan.
 
#35 ·
Just got back yesterday from a couple days of riding down at Mt. Bachelor, OR. As we were loading up the cars to head home, I grabbed my board from the condo. I then noticed that the outer adjustment covers (wing looking things) from the sides of the binding were missing. So the right one on the right foot, and the left one on the left foot. I'm clueless as to how/when they broke off since I didn't run into anything at all. Then I thought maybe it happened when the board slid forward/backward in the truck bed, but didn't find the missing pieces there. Only other theory I have is that it's from banging against other boards/skis on the lift, but I don't think such a light bump could've caused it. The wings don't just pop open when you push the button either, you still have to use your nail to pry it open while pressing the button. So yeah, I'm stumped.

Good news is, Flux customer service is THE BEST I have ever dealt with for any snowboard gear issues. They're sending me out free replacements today and don't charge you for shipping. It was so easy, quick, and painless. These pieces don't effect the function at all, but the bindings look funny with just one missing from each side, so hopefully they come soon.
 
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