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Old 01-29-2010, 10:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default REVIEW: 2010 Flux Super Titan bindings

Super stoked b/c my 2010 Flux Super Titans arrived earlier this week. I got them from Blase Gilmore of Gilly's Boardshop in MA. If you don't already know, he's a fellow Snowboarding Forum member, B. Gilly If any of you are thinking of picking up a pair of Flux bindings or a Never Summer board, this is your guy! He's one of the only authorized Flux retailers in his area and he knows his shit, so he can answer any/all your questions. I'm sure he'll be able to hook you up with a smoking deal on the right gear for you. Just email him through his shop's website or PM him on this forum.

They come with an extra replacement ankle and toe ladder strap, as well as an Elm beanie. Cool bonuses I wasn't expecting initially. Haven't had a chance to take them on the hill yet, but I'll update as soon as I have a couple days out with them. I did spend over an hour making adjustments to everything. The adjustment options are almost identical to those on my Rome 390's and Targas, except that everything on the Flux is tool-less. This is great, which means you can fine tune them on the fly, as well as making a couple simple adjustments so a friend could try them out for a couple runs or something. When I rotated the backs, they ended up at a bit of a strange angle, both vertically and within the heelcup. Another factor is that my boots are at the upper size limits of the binding, along with the way the ladder straps are mounted inside the heelcup, so with such a tight fit in the heelcup as it is, there isn't much room to spare when the highback is tweaked. To be fair, I've always ended up leaving the highbacks as is on all my bindings I've tried rotating the highback on.

I was surprised that they actually felt heavier than I expected, so I decided to bust out my postal scale and actually weigh them. I only weighed one foot, so x2 for a set. Here are the actual weights including mounting screws for each and baseplate covers as applicable (all but the Super Titans) for all the bindings I have lying around the house right now. What this means and how much it matters (if at all) depends on several factors like the weight of your board to begin with, your true skill level, application, etc...

Weights in lbs.
2.19 - Rome 390
2.31 - Rome Targa
2.38 - Union Force
2.44 - Flux Super Titan
2.46 - Flux Feedback
2.50 - Union Data
2.56 - Ride NRc
2.69 - Ride CAD

My initial impressions are very good...these bindings feel solid with a fore/aft flex similar to my Targas, as well as similar torsional play. This should equal a nice all mountain freestyle binding. I'm loving the look of, and theory behind, the streamlined frame with the adjustment cover plate things. I do wish the little button did a better job of popping it open further, or maybe if they integrated a small notch on the edge of the cover somewhere, so that it's a little easier to open without fingernails. The ladder guides seem to work better than those on Targa ankle strapa and Union toe straps, which catch sometimes, but we'll have to see how well these work on the mtn. The ankle straps are very cushy, almost as soft as the gel-like 390's. When researching I heard great things about the toecap, and I have to say I'm very impressed too. I took it apart and inside, the plastic skeleton looks much like the latest capstraps from K2 and Burton w/the hole in the middle. It fits my K2 T1 DB boots very well. I currently have my boots strapped down tight in the bindings, as I always do with new ones, so that they're already molded a bit before I actually get out and use them.

So what are my complaints/criticisms? The only thing I have come up with so far is that I wish they had some sort of baseplate cover so that the entire sole of my boot has a uniformly level surface to rest on. I haven't owned a set without a cover since 4 seasons ago, so we'll see if I notice a difference in practice. Like I said previously, I'll update with more impressions as I get a chance to spend a couple days with them on the mtn.
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So what are my complaints/criticisms? The only thing I have come up with so far is that I wish they had some sort of baseplate cover so that the entire sole of my boot has a uniformly level surface to rest on. I haven't owned a set without a cover since 4 seasons ago, so we'll see if I notice a difference on the mtn. Like I said previously, I'll update with more impressions as I get a chance to spend a couple days with them in use.
My only complaint about the titan rks is this exactly. The rest of the binding more than makes up for the base though.
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Here are a couple pics I snapped real quick, showing some angles that you don't normally see in stock photos.




With the cover plates open:
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My only complaint about the titan rks is this exactly. The rest of the binding more than makes up for the base though.
I've also got a set of Flux Feedbacks on order, which I think is the only binder in Flux's lineup that DOES have a baseplate cover. Stay tuned for that one...
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I've also got a set of Flux Feedbacks on order, which I think is the only binder in Flux's lineup that DOES have a baseplate cover. Stay tuned for that one...

definitely looking forward to your input on the feedbacks.
also, i thinkk you meant super titans in the title?
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Looking forward to your impressions on the mountain.

The only downside I have come across so far with flux is with boot compatibility.

The ankle straps are kinda tricky at first to snap in on the mountain. From what I have noticed it is the ladder guide that seems to cause the catch. Seems a bit stiff and causes the ankle strap to not want to bend correctly for slipping the strap in.
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Thanks for the review man! Can you change binding angles on the fly too? And how secure do the tool-less adjustments feel? I know they're designed well enough so they probably won't come off or anything while riding but is there any wiggle room making it feel a little looser than screws?
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Thanks for the review man! Can you change binding angles on the fly too? And how secure do the tool-less adjustments feel? I know they're designed well enough so they probably won't come off or anything while riding but is there any wiggle room making it feel a little looser than screws?
All adjustments are tool less. They lock in very well and snap back into a place that secures them so no loosening. Not had any issues so far this season with the adjustments coming loose.

edit- at first saw bindings angles as the highbacks. Still the same if you want to change your stance angles. Loosen the baseplate not the same as ICS. Even though flux does have an adapter disk for burtons channel boards.
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Looking forward to your impressions on the mountain.

The only downside I have come across so far with flux is with boot compatibility.

The ankle straps are kinda tricky at first to snap in on the mountain. From what I have noticed it is the ladder guide that seems to cause the catch. Seems a bit stiff and causes the ankle strap to not want to bend correctly for slipping the strap in.
I noticed this also. However now that i have had mine for over a month it is not a problem anymore. Once you get them latched down though they fit great on my boot.
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great review! i'm waiting for my feedbacks as well they should be here by tuesday.

btw trip, you called your new super titans "super targa" in the title. hope they're not too offended :P
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