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So I tried on some Size 12 Stiff Boots
One of my local shops has a big sale going on, so I decided it was as good a time as any to go get myself the pair of boots that I have been needing all season.
I am about 6'3" 250. I spend most of my time going fast down the groomers or in the crud, carving, slaloming kids, and I will hit whatever jump a see along the trail.
My foot measured in at a hair under 30cm. Which of course means that a 12 is usually too small and a 13 is too big (I don't know who decided that people with big feet don't need half sizes, but I hate him/her.) My foot is also narrow to mid-wide in the heel and the forefoot. I have a high arch.
09/10 K2 T1 DB:
My big toe was pressed against the end (needed a 12.5, but it doesn't exist).
The forefoot had plenty of room.
The heel hold was great, thanks in large part to the boa ankle harness.
It had a stiff toeside flex, except with the boa lacing system I couldn't get the top as tight as I would like while it was too tight around the ankle (this is the same as I have experienced with all BOA boots).
The liner cushoning seemed on par with the other boots I tried on, but did not blow me away (this is probably due to the BOA system pressuring my feet wrong).
09/10 Rome Folsom
They were a little short, but not as bad as the T1's and probably wouldn't bother me after packing out.
The forefoot felt odd too me. It felt "cupped" or narrow so there was pressure on the outside-bottom of my forefoot. There was plenty of toe room though.
Had great heel hold, thanks in large part to the internal lace up ankle harness, but not quite as good as the T1.
The good old standard lace up design let me get it tight where I wanted it.
Even with the laces wrenched down, the toeside flex seemed a bit softer than the other boots I tried.
The liner cushoning seemed very nice, and overall it was very comfortable if not for the narrow forefoot.
09/10 Salomon Pledge
Perfect width and support throughout.
Heel hold wasn't bad, but these were the second worst in this area. If these had an internal ankle harness I would have bought them.
I wouldn't really consider the Salomon lacing system to be a SPEED system, but it does the job well. I can get the top really tight like I like it, without killing my ankle or cutting off circulation in my foot
As a great surprise to me, these had a stiffer toeside flex than anything but the Driver X, although they didn't seem as stiff laterally. I tried them on side by side with the Malamutes and I had to double check which one was on which foot because I couldn't believe it.
The liner cushoning was nice, and they were overall the most comfortable for me.
08/09 Salomon Malamute
A hair longer than the Pledges, but still very good.
A bit more roomy than the Pledges, but still tight and supportive throughout.
Great heel hold. 2nd only to the T1. The heel pocket seemed slightly tighter then the Pledge and the Malamutes have a strap that helps keep your ankle down and back.
Again, the Salomon lacing system works well but isn't speedy and looks like a mess of cables once you are in.
These were very stiff to the heelside and laterally (as much as I could tell without actually strapping in) but didn't seem quite as stiff as the Pledges to the toeside.
The liner was very cushy, and my feet told me to buy them.
09/10 Burton Driver X
Long. They came out of a size 12 box, but they fit like my size 13 Burton Moto's. I should have checked the tab in the shell to verify, but after I realized they had no heel hold, I wasn't really interested.
Very wide and roomy throughout.
They had a nice ankle harness, but it didn't seem to help. Just like every pair of Burtons that I have tried, the heel pocket is too wide and not pronounced enough to keep my heel down.
The Burton dual zone speed lacing works well, but it doesn't feel like I can get it as tight on the very top as with the Salomon boots.
STIFF. These were the stiffest of all the boots. Front, Back, and Side to Side.....these take the cake.
The liner was very comforable, but I wasn't in them long enough to make a good comparison.
A thought this might help some people, but please remember that my feet are not your feet. What fits me may not fit you.
Last edited by BoardTheSnow73; 02-14-2010 at 11:12 PM.