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Old 02-17-2010, 11:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is day 1. I'll keep updating when I feel I have more information to add.

Binding Size: Medium (7-10)
Boots: Thirty-two Ultra Light Size 9. Boot compatibility is great.


Setup: These things were a dream to set up. So easy to customize. Every binding company should use the tool-less adjustments. I angled and centered the straps, and rotated the high backs perfectly to my boot with very little fuss. I adjusted to forward lean before I rotated the high backs, and was very surprised that I could completely eliminate the space between the high back and the heel cup. They are definitely high quality bindings as they seem to be very well made. The forward lean adjustment is a The only minor complaint I have is that the baseplate didn't align perfectly with the stance angles on my left binding, so I wasn't sure what my stance angle was exactly.

Comfort: I'm going to give two reviews here, a fair one, and one slanted toward my ridiculous feet. Let's get the bad out of the way first. It seems like traditional bindings make my feet go numb, so it's nothing against the Feedbacks. This time, my friggin' heel and the area around my 5th metatarsal went numb. I can't win with traditional bindings. It's bad enough I have to lace my boots perfectly just to have a good day, my boots were as optimal as they could be, but the ankle strap really created a pressure point on my foot. As far as comfort goes from a more objective standpoint, these are definitely the most comfortable traditional bindings I've ridden. The straps have great cushioning, but don't seem to sacrifice response. Definitely more comfy than my K2 Autos. The toe caps are awesome. Seriously. Zero pressure there.

Support/Responsiveness: Not much of a surprise, but these are very supportive bindings. The toe cap strap is awesome. It holds the boot back so well. It's hard for me to comment on the flex right yet, as I didn't do any jibbing today. So far they seem like medium flex overall. There are some inserts I can put on the let and right sides of the bindings to make them a little stiffer. I can't say much more other than the board did exactly what I wanted it to do every time. I think these bindings can be pretty much used for anything. The high backs are very flexible. Much more flexible than my k2 Autos. I would consider them to be about as stiff as your typical freestyle oriented binding.

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What size boot do you have and what size binding did you get? And how flexible is the highback when you twist it?
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What size boot do you have and what size binding did you get? And how flexible is the highback when you twist it?
I edited it above but just to make it easier for you: Thirty Two Ultralights size 9 (excellent fit), medium binding, very flexible high backs. The stiffness varies however. Up toward the top of the high back it's more rigid, and the further you travel down to where the high back pivots on the screws, it gets more flexible.

Based on this, the distortions must bend like rubber :P
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nice review =)
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks! I'll keep updating it when I feel I have some more feedback I'm riding in a couple hours, so if I'll do some jibbing today, and if I bother with the pipe today, I'll comment on that as well.
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the feedback is geared more for freeride isn't it? that's what i got from their site atleast.
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the feedback is geared more for freeride isn't it? that's what i got from their site atleast.
From everything I've read about them they're all-terrain/freestyle.

I think it's because they have the stronger 45 blend base and the super tough nylon high back as well as the Ultra response straps. But the Super Titan also has the 45 blend base (smooth, not genetic) the super tough nylon highback (reg, not sym) and the Ultra response straps, and I've seen most of their team riding them in slopestyle events. I have actually yet to see a flux team member, other than milbery, riding one of the bindings with a blend 30 base.

Edit: I actually think they'd be more freestyle oriented because of the urethane dampers they added to reduce impact on landing. Similar to what Union has.

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No, these are definitely not geared toward freeriding. Don't get me wrong though, you can freeride with them, but the flex profile of the higback is too soft at the base to be a dedicated freeride binding. My k2 autos have a noticably stiffer high back. Almost twice as stiff actually.
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Update 2

Comfort, round 2: Apparently it only took me two 6 hour trips to break them in. Very comfy. No numbness or anything ! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that! My only complaint now is that I'm spoiled with how quickly I'm in and out of my flows.

Support/responsiveness, part Deux: I think "Feedback" is truly a fitting name for these bindings. They're comfy, but responsive, and they support you enough to acclimate to whatever you're doing.

Speaking more on the flex, the Feedbacks were flexible enough to really tweak reverts when going from switch to regular. As I was carving switch, then reverting frontside, it was easy to spin the board the rest of the way by shifting my feet quicky and letting my body catch up later for some added style.

The conditions today were odd. It was wet and fast. It's was sleeting clown spit. Not quite slush, and not quite loose granular. I'll call it slush granular . In combination with my Bataleon Goliath (which is a directional all mountain board), digging deep heelside is harder and less stable than with my k2 autos. The snow was amazing to carve at the beginning of the day, but as it got packed in and bumps started forming everywhere, I could feel where the high back's flex profile wasn't really helping out. I'm light weight, so it's really easy for me to notice these things. So I had to relegate my carving to skidded turns as the snow packed down.

I did a little jibbing today and they really allowed that flex that gives more confidence as you're manipulating the features. Hitting even a flat box with more rigid bindings just doesn't feel safe to me, it feels like you're "stuck". I felt more comfortable jibbing in these no question. No problems stomping jumps either.

Oh and just to be clear, it's not like I couldn't carve when the snow was packed and bumpy, it's that I couldn't carve while going really fast, hence why I was using skidded turns.

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