2011 Never Summer Heritage 158 Review - Snowboarding Forum

arsenic0 · 02-27-2010, 02:54 AM

Stay tuned, ill update this thread with a more formal review as i get more chances to ride it.

[Review]
Size: 158 Never Summer Heritage(obviously!)
Bindings: 2009 Burton Cartels
Stance: About 21 inches
Angles: 12,-12
Boots: 2009 Burton Rulers
My Stats: 5'6 140lbs
Spot: Mt Hood Meadows
Conditions: Groomers, Windblown Icy, Spring Slush, Choppy Crust, ~6 inches pow(bad season!)
Riding Style: Groomers are only to maintain speed on flats, or get where your going!

I came into this a total Heritage noob, i had never ridden/demo'd one in previous years.
For that matter i have not ridden a huge amount of snowboards to compare it too in general. That said i was obviously honored to demo/review a board for NS.

The first thing i noticed was the weight, for a board that was much much longer than my 151 2009 SL-R it didnt feel any heavier. And in fact when i weighed it the difference was only a few ounces, which surprised me. The flex is good, although this is the largest board i have ever ridden and would probably ever ride at my size, so i am not flexing this thing like a noodle by any means.

The one thing that definately was noticable on this board was the stability. I was just bouncing across all of the choppy snow as fast as i could. I definately felt like i was able to hold a slight edge and feel a lot more stable on this board than my 151, feeling like i was nearly flatbasing it without losing much speed. The edge changes were steady, it took me a while to get a handle on this board though as I have only ridden my SL-R for the last two seasons but once i got into it was as simple and quick changing as my SL-R. I did do some of my normal tree runs with this board and didnt feel quite as in control as i would have liked, but this board was far from ideal for this considering my size. Normally you take shorter boards you can toss around much easier into the tree's, so i wasnt surprised..i would just pick up so much speed so quickly i was constantly checking speed to keep from plowing into things or flying way too far off built up lips straight into tree's.

Overall i liked the board a lot, that said i think the 158 size was a bit too big for me for a "freeride/freestyle" style board only moderately stiffer than my SL-R...if i was to go this big again I would probably go all the way to a Premier F1-R for a straight powder stick/charger. That said instead of getting a 157 Premier F1-R as i had planned I am seriously thinking of getting a 155 Heritage next year instead. Unfortunately they had not manufactured any 155's yet so i was unable to ride one.
[/Review]

Here is all the extra stuff i had typed earlier i will save for posterity..

Board Stats:
158cm
6lb 9 oz without bindings

As a comparison my 151 SL-R is only about 4-5oz lighter.

So far ive gotten to ride it for a few hours tonight, took some getting used to the extra length as i typically ride a 151 but i can definitely feel the extra stability at speed over my 151 SL-R... definitely has to do with it being a 158, as well as extra stiffness...board is damn sexy looking. Their new "Carbonium" top sheet gives it a carbon fiber type look and apparently makes it very resistant something everyone hates ...to have their new board top sheet scratched up by some douche skier on the first day. Ill take it out Sunday into the mass of weekend warriors and let you know how that fares...

Its the largest board i've ridden at 145lbs, as they didnt have the 155 Heritages made yet. I gotta say though, initial impressions are good for how easily i can throw this thing around considering the relative size...

For now here are some sexy pictures!

First ghetto shots from my Iphone

And later with a buddies real digital camera after i took it out...

baseline6 · 02-28-2010, 07:53 PM

thnx for the review bro im super stoked for this board as its going to be my first NS board. do you know how many of this board they will make and what sizes they will be making it in? the heritage is always in short supply every year but with this new tech and the graphic looking sick! it makes me wonder if they're will be more or less to go around... i hope the price tag on this board stays around where its been for the past couple years. NS has always been good about not raising prices on boards right?. id like to hear about the pop in it as well and how much speed does the board hold? i read it will have a sintered 4500 base so id imagine it's going to sustain speed on the flats.

Cool_As_Cakes · 02-28-2010, 08:00 PM

dammit! so thats where that board is. I'm anxiously awaiting my turn, don't keep it too long

baseline6 · 02-28-2010, 08:14 PM

you guys just pass boards around to review them? how did this happen?

arsenic0 · 02-28-2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool_As_Cakes

dammit! so thats where that board is. I'm anxiously awaiting my turn, don't keep it too long

Ill keep it waxed :d it came to me pretty beat up...from another member here i believe(Killclimbz?)

I highly doubt they will be changing the pricing, but you are right it is one of the tougher boards to get a hold of usually..but you can if you buy early enough when they come out. I know they are actively trying to advertise this board as it is one of the "hidden" stars in their line up that a lot of people overlook for the more popular boards on this site like the SL and Evo...it really is amazing and has me reconsidering between it and the F1 since i can get this in a shorter 155 size.

The board was holding speed plenty fine for me, so much so that when the untracked portions near the bottom of the lift started to get sticky late at night i would lose a considerable amount of speed and had to bounce a bit to keep it goin to the lift, it was.

Going down steeper grades i feel a lot more confident than i do on my 151 SL-R.
Unfortunately i didnt get a chance to take it out today(Sunday) as i had planned due to a...late night...i hope to get some more posted later in the week.

RVM · 03-08-2010, 04:26 PM

I have wanted a Heritage for a few years now but I've never had the money to buy one.

One day!

arsenic0 · 03-08-2010, 05:38 PM

I should get to put it through its paces here Wednesday..they are predicting 10-16 inches...may be one of the best days of this shitty season...cant wait!

FLuiD · 03-08-2010, 06:31 PM

Nice... I rode the 2011 Heritage yesterday for the first time. It was my first day back from injury and the snow sucked but it was awesome. Definitely need more time on it before I can form a true opinion! I will say though that it snaps out of a turn like you wouldn't believe and is super fast edge to edge. No problems throwing high speed superman tail presses on it either!!! Definitely NOT the previous Heritage!!!

jpb3 · 03-09-2010, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLuiD

Definitely NOT the previous Heritage!!!

Can you please elaborate?

Milo303 · 03-09-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpb3

Can you please elaborate?

He will in his own review.

Saw this stick at Fluids pad the other day and that topsheet is really really cool! I hope it becomes an industry standard.

02-27-2010, 02:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
arsenic0 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 2,106	2011 Never Summer Heritage 158 Review Stay tuned, ill update this thread with a more formal review as i get more chances to ride it. [Review] Size: 158 Never Summer Heritage(obviously!) Bindings: 2009 Burton Cartels Stance: About 21 inches Angles: 12,-12 Boots: 2009 Burton Rulers My Stats: 5'6 140lbs Spot: Mt Hood Meadows Conditions: Groomers, Windblown Icy, Spring Slush, Choppy Crust, ~6 inches pow(bad season!) Riding Style: Groomers are only to maintain speed on flats, or get where your going! I came into this a total Heritage noob, i had never ridden/demo'd one in previous years. For that matter i have not ridden a huge amount of snowboards to compare it too in general. That said i was obviously honored to demo/review a board for NS. The first thing i noticed was the weight, for a board that was much much longer than my 151 2009 SL-R it didnt feel any heavier. And in fact when i weighed it the difference was only a few ounces, which surprised me. The flex is good, although this is the largest board i have ever ridden and would probably ever ride at my size, so i am not flexing this thing like a noodle by any means. The one thing that definately was noticable on this board was the stability. I was just bouncing across all of the choppy snow as fast as i could. I definately felt like i was able to hold a slight edge and feel a lot more stable on this board than my 151, feeling like i was nearly flatbasing it without losing much speed. The edge changes were steady, it took me a while to get a handle on this board though as I have only ridden my SL-R for the last two seasons but once i got into it was as simple and quick changing as my SL-R. I did do some of my normal tree runs with this board and didnt feel quite as in control as i would have liked, but this board was far from ideal for this considering my size. Normally you take shorter boards you can toss around much easier into the tree's, so i wasnt surprised..i would just pick up so much speed so quickly i was constantly checking speed to keep from plowing into things or flying way too far off built up lips straight into tree's. Overall i liked the board a lot, that said i think the 158 size was a bit too big for me for a "freeride/freestyle" style board only moderately stiffer than my SL-R...if i was to go this big again I would probably go all the way to a Premier F1-R for a straight powder stick/charger. That said instead of getting a 157 Premier F1-R as i had planned I am seriously thinking of getting a 155 Heritage next year instead. Unfortunately they had not manufactured any 155's yet so i was unable to ride one. [/Review] Here is all the extra stuff i had typed earlier i will save for posterity.. Board Stats: 158cm 6lb 9 oz without bindings As a comparison my 151 SL-R is only about 4-5oz lighter. So far ive gotten to ride it for a few hours tonight, took some getting used to the extra length as i typically ride a 151 but i can definitely feel the extra stability at speed over my 151 SL-R... definitely has to do with it being a 158, as well as extra stiffness...board is damn sexy looking. Their new "Carbonium" top sheet gives it a carbon fiber type look and apparently makes it very resistant something everyone hates ...to have their new board top sheet scratched up by some douche skier on the first day. Ill take it out Sunday into the mass of weekend warriors and let you know how that fares... Its the largest board i've ridden at 145lbs, as they didnt have the 155 Heritages made yet. I gotta say though, initial impressions are good for how easily i can throw this thing around considering the relative size... For now here are some sexy pictures! First ghetto shots from my Iphone And later with a buddies real digital camera after i took it out... __________________ '09 151 Never Summer SL-R '10 K2 T1 DB Bots '09 Burton Cartel Bindings Last edited by arsenic0; 03-11-2010 at 01:23 PM.

02-28-2010, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
baseline6 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ 4 hours from sunrise Posts: 302	thnx for the review bro im super stoked for this board as its going to be my first NS board. do you know how many of this board they will make and what sizes they will be making it in? the heritage is always in short supply every year but with this new tech and the graphic looking sick! it makes me wonder if they're will be more or less to go around... i hope the price tag on this board stays around where its been for the past couple years. NS has always been good about not raising prices on boards right?. id like to hear about the pop in it as well and how much speed does the board hold? i read it will have a sintered 4500 base so id imagine it's going to sustain speed on the flats. __________________

02-28-2010, 08:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
baseline6 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ 4 hours from sunrise Posts: 302	you guys just pass boards around to review them? how did this happen? __________________

03-08-2010, 04:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
RVM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central California Posts: 515	I have wanted a Heritage for a few years now but I've never had the money to buy one. One day! __________________ There is no substitution for human competition.

03-08-2010, 05:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
arsenic0 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 2,106	I should get to put it through its paces here Wednesday..they are predicting 10-16 inches...may be one of the best days of this shitty season...cant wait! __________________ '09 151 Never Summer SL-R '10 K2 T1 DB Bots '09 Burton Cartel Bindings

02-28-2010, 08:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cool_As_Cakes Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: carbondale, CO Posts: 187	dammit! so thats where that board is. I'm anxiously awaiting my turn, don't keep it too long

03-08-2010, 06:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
FLuiD Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Denver, CO USA Earth Posts: 957	Nice... I rode the 2011 Heritage yesterday for the first time. It was my first day back from injury and the snow sucked but it was awesome. Definitely need more time on it before I can form a true opinion! I will say though that it snaps out of a turn like you wouldn't believe and is super fast edge to edge. No problems throwing high speed superman tail presses on it either!!! Definitely NOT the previous Heritage!!! __________________ on Backcountry.com! http://twitter.com/Mr_FLuiD

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