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i'm anxious to read your full review. i had a very short season on my 157 TG. aside from the reverse/dual camber profile, i had no idea how similar the specs are to the sl-r.

btw - TG has an extruded base, which is probably why it feels so lightweight. nitro uses the sintered stuff on their more high-end decks like the misfit, rook and pantera.
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I was under the impression it was a sort of hybrid sintruded type deal, but I could be wrong. I will say that it actually felt pretty damn fast, at least as fast as my NS. Yes, I waxed it before it's first use, like I always do.

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what the F?!? Man, if it's really extruded my new 159 going straight back
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I was wondering about this too as on the website they dont mention that its a sintered base. They call it "HI-DEF FH BASE: OUR ULTRA CLEAR BASE MATERIAL BLEND - FAST AND DURABLE" and then on other models the go on to reference "SINTERED SPEED FORMULA II BASE: SPEED FREAKS ONLY! OUR EXCLUSIVE NANOTECH WAX INFUSED FORMULA".
It seems the team only has an extruded base which is a big let down, and there is no such thing as a blend of the two, go to wiki and have a look at the production methods of sintered plastics and extruded plastics and you will see there is a big difference between how they are manufactured.
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what the F?!? Man, if it's really extruded my new 159 going straight back
please send it back so that i can order it thanks.

i have the subpop (last years subzero) and i think the base is fast enough. if you are looking for something to bomb down the hill on, i would look at stiffer, cambered board.

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I don't want to get into it too much further in this review thread, but extruded & sintered are made from the same materials, the difference being how the base is formed. In general, extruded is cheaper to produce, but stronger and easier to repair, while sintered is more expensive to make and more difficult to repair properly, but faster. Keep in mind that not all sintered bases are created equally, same goes for extruded bases.

I've always chosen sintered, ever since I understood the differences, b/c I value speed above all else. However, I've owned and ridden all kinds of boards from Arbor, Lib, Gnu, Ride, Bataleon, NS, etc... and learned that some sintered bases are definitely faster than others. Whatever the base is on the TG, it's FAST. It feels just about as fast as other sintered and hybrid bases I've ridden, and noticeably faster than the few extruded ones I've tried. Granted, it's a brand new board with a perfect undamaged base, but so were most of the other boards I've owned (either bought brand new or nearly).

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Wow, I did not see there was a review topic right above the one i replied to, what a coincidence.

From the other thread:

so i took this board to whitefish. well first of all, i should note that this is my first "real" board so everything would probably be awesome. But this board performed much better than my expectations, I could turn much sharper than i was ever able to (even on a sprained ankle), and it held its edge perfectly in ice. felt very stable at speed, and loved the way it reacted in powder/deeper snow. As for the base, it was as fast as I expected reading comments online. No problem whatsoever clearing traverses, and this is probably the first time it felt like I was accelerating from a stop on a very, very flat area. but then again, new board. However, judging from friends, i felt my base was faster.

As for the shiny top sheet, I'm still slightly worried because it looks damageable. The nose has a small nick from lift lines, and the sticker's peeling off abit, so I'm glad it's not a $500 board.

Regarding the board wanting to pull in tight, I think I have felt that. When going down, it's not usually a problem, but there were a couple times when i was zoning out (basically not moving), then the board pulled in and i caught an edge, which doesn't usually happen. I also felt it when I was trying to clear a very flat area, the board wants to turn, and you need to consciously keep it under control. Got used to it without realizing - it was only on switch that i realized this as something different from my past board. Shouldn't be a problem if you have experience. But yes, i love the way this board turns, and i can't wait to try it out soon with a fully healed ankle.

EDIT. I will update this review on Friday, screw the ankle, season's ending and I've only taken this board out once and a half.
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what the F?!? Man, if it's really extruded my new 159 going straight back
What'd you end up paying for it? I'd gladly take it off your hands for that cost plus shipping.

And, while this base may well not be an extruded base, it sure as hell is fast. First time I took it out, I decided to take a lesson (first time in years, put both my brothers in lessons, and got mine free, so why the hell not?). My instructor failed to keep up to me anywhere we tried to carry speed. And yeah, I'd just waxed it before going (always do), but he'd done the same for his board.
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So far that's like 4-5 of us that all agree this board is f'ing fast, despite not having a sintered base. I'll be taking it out in 30" of fresh pow tomorrow, so let's see how well it floats.

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So far that's like 4-5 of us that all agree this board is f'ing fast, despite not having a sintered base. I'll be taking it out in 30" of fresh pow tomorrow, so let's see how well it floats.
Lucky... Had 50cm of fresh, unridden snow (overnight for most of it, and hill was closed yesterday) locally today, and I went to work to cover for someone instead... Got the call this morning, tried a helmet on, and it still hurt to put on a helmet, so boarding is out of the question as of yet. May have to finally go see a doctor, as it's now been over 2 weeks, and I think I've come to the realization my season may well be over.

Still can't wait to see what you think of this thing!
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