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Old 03-29-2010, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default REVIEW: 2010 Flux Feedback bindings

After a couple months of searching, my 2010 Flux Feedbacks finally arrived today!! I'm pretty excited after getting a set of 2010 Flux Super Titans a couple months ago, which have worked out great as an all mountain freestyle binding. You can read that review by clicking here. The two are similar in many aspects, but there are a few key differences, so I think the Feedback will work out even better for my riding style. They came with spare replacement ankle and toe ladder straps, as well as a second set of base rubber pieces in a different density. Of course I haven't had a chance to take them on the hill yet, but I'll update as soon as I have a couple days out with them this week.

When I got my Super Titans a couple mos. ago, I spent over an hour making adjustments to everything, as I always do. This time around, I was able to use the ST as a model, making the same adjustments to the Feedbacks, so it cut that time by more than half. The adjustment options are almost identical to those on my Rome Targas, except that everything on the Flux is tool-less. This is great, which means you can fine tune them anytime/anywhere. Whenever I try rotating highbacks on any binding, they always end up at a bit of a strange angle, both vertically and within the heelcup. It's usually as a result of my binding angles and that my boots are at the upper size limits of the binding. The same is true for me with Flux bindings, plus the way the ladder straps are mounted inside the heelcup, so with such a tight fit in the heelcup as it is, there isn't much room to spare when the highback is tweaked.

Since I weighed all my other bindings in my Super Titan review, I busted out my postal scale again and weighed these too. I expected the Feedbacks to weigh a little less than the Super Titans it doesn't have those side covers and has the cored out heelcup. I was surprised to find that wasn't the case. I attribute it to the addition of the rubber base pieces and baseplate covers, and the slightly stiffer design. The difference is negligible anyways, so it really doesn't matter. Here are the actual weights including mounting screws for each and baseplate covers for all but the Super Titans. Only weighed one foot, so x2 for a set.

Weights in lbs.
2.19 - Rome 390
2.31 - Rome Targa
2.38 - Union Force
2.44 - Flux Super Titan
2.46 - Flux Feedback
2.50 - Union Data
2.56 - Ride NRc
2.69 - Ride CAD

My initial impressions are excellent...these bindings feel solid with a fore/aft flex and torsional play very similar to the Super Titans but just barely stiffer. I'll have to wait until they're somewhat broken in to see if they're closer to the feel of my Rome Targas or not. I didn't find the ST to be quite as responsive as the Targas, although more than my 390's. The Feedback and ST utilize the same ladder guides, which have proven to work very well--much better than on Targa ankle straps and Union toe straps which catch sometimes. Although the Flux website says they share the same ankle strap, they're actually different. Both are cushy, with the ST being almost as soft as the gel-like 390's, but the one on the Feedback is a bit firmer and slightly narrower. They do share the same toe caps, which are the best I've ever tried (yes, slightly better than even Rome/Ride, and way better than Union/Burton. It fits my K2 T1 DB boots very well, which I currently have strapped down tight in the bindings, as I always do with new ones, so that they're already molded a bit before I actually get out and use them.

I think I prefer the streamlined frame of the ST with its adjustment covers, but the asymmetrical highbacks on the Feedbacks do look pretty sweet. Since the tops of them are angled, the highest point is the same height as the ST which is flat and 1cm taller than the regular Titan. This is my first set of bindings with an asym back, so I'm curious to see if I feel any noticeable difference in response from that. It might be hard to differentiate b/w that and the difference in the base b/c both bindings utilize the same materials in the base/highback, but each piece is designed differently. The Feedback should do an even better job of cushioning landings because the padding on top of the baseplate is ~1mm thicker, and Flux added removable rubber pieces to the outer lower sides of the base. It came with a set of grey ones installed which are more flexible like firm urethane, and another set of black ones in the box which more rigid like plastic. I'll prob swap them around depending on what board I mount the binders to.

If it sounds like I love these bindings so far, I do. I can't find a single thing wrong as of yet, so we'll have to see if that changes once I put them in use. Like I said previously, I'll update with more impressions as I get a chance to spend a couple days with them on the mtn, which should happen before the weekend.
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Snapped some pics. Real clean looking, if a bit plain.




Baseplate covers & Rubber base pieces (black = hard flex, grey = soft flex)


Asym highbacks
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Nice review i have a set at home waiting for my new board!
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Excellent Review!
I have ridden almost all the same bindings you mentioned and feel the same way. These and the Union Force SL's are my go to bindings. I hear they are moving to a cap strap that is similar to Burton's Conformist Toe strap next year and it pisses me off. At least they got the color right this year before changing it up. Last year's pink lepoard print was about as bad as it gets for a men's model. If you aren't convinced this binding is the way to go here is another review.

http//www.thegoodride.com/bindings/good-ride-favorites/400-flux-feedback-binding-review-.html
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Took them up today for the first time, mounted to my 2010 Nitro Team Gullwing 159. We're in the midst of our best storm of the season, so I was riding 30" of fresh untracked pow today. I have to say I was VERY impressed with these. I'll write more after I get another day on them, this time mounted by my 2010 Bataleon Omni 159.

While setting these up on my board last night, I just happened to notice they have adjustable heel ramps! That's f'ing rad! Let me know if you've seen it on any other binding, but I sure haven't. Basically you have several settings for adjusting the fore/aft position of the heel ramp, just like you do with toe ramps on most bindings. I went back and checked my Super Titans, and sure enough they have that feature too, yet I somehow never noticed. Stupid me, but really glad I finally found out. Yet another example of Flux's innovative tech and attention to details.
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Previously I erroneously said they had the same ratchets. Visually they look about the same with thinner levers on the Feedbacks. The internals also look about the same, but the Feedbacks have shorter pieces to pull up on to release them, and a smaller piece underneath the lever that is pushed down to release the teeth. I feel like these two changes might be the reason the toe ratchets actually catch more than I like when you want to release them. It doesn't seem like something that can be fixed by applying some lube to the mechanisms. I've only used them one day so far, so I'm hoping they'll "break in" as people claim happens with the often sticky Ride ratchets. Again, this is only on the toe strap, as the ankle straps are just as buttery smooth as I've come to expect from Flux, and only when releasing.
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Have you had the chance to play with the position of the highbacks? If I'm not mistaken, you take advantage of the stiffer inner portion of the asymmetrical highbacks by rotating them parallel to the board's edge. I guess for freestyle/park riding you'd want to keep the highbacks in the default/neutral position to engage the softer outer portion of the highbacks. I also own a pair of Feedbacks, but I haven't been able to ride with them since the season on the east coast ended earlier than expected so I'll have to live vicariously through you for the time being

Also, how do the Feedbacks compare to the Super Titans?
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I'm not sure about that. I don't have them rotated or swapped around, so I can't really comment on the difference in stiffness you're describing. The way they came, the asym highbacks are taller on the outside and shorter on the inside. Seemed to me that this makes it easier to press but giving you more response for carves. There are those swappable base pieces, and I'll prob switch to the hard black ones when I take them up again this week on the 2010 NS Heritage-R 158 I just got in.

After rocking the Feedbacks on my 2010 Nitro Team Gullwing 159 and 2010 Bataleon Omni 159, I can confidently say that I love these things. They really are what I was looking for, moreso than the Super Titans. Those two boards are very different, with the Bataleon being a slightly stiffer tapered pow board, while the Nitro is a faster and softer freestyle board. Took them through conditions ranging from several FEET of fresh pow, groomers, treeruns, crusty moguls, choppy slush, etc... and the Feedbacks killed it. Both of my Flux bindings are solid and extremely comfortable. Never a pinch or pressure point--ever. The Feedbacks seem to be just a little more damp and responsive. The Super Titans are great bindings, but not quite what I need for charging. I'll be using them more for days where I'm cruising or hitting the park and keeping them on slightly softer boards like that Nitro or my 2010 NS SL-R 158.

It's been awhile since I've ridden my Rome Targas, which have been my favorites of all the bindings I've tried including Union, Ride, Burton, Salomon, etc... These Feedbacks are really giving them a run for the money, so I'm going to have to slap on the Romes again to confirm if they're still my #1 or if they've been dethroned.
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Just another waist deep day at the office...

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Just as a short update, I'll be riding this again this year, so I'll be able to comment later on about the durability and how they hold up over time. Couldn't really accurately review that aspect since I only got to use them the last month of last season.
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