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I'll be taking one of these (59, rockered) on Michigan ice soon, arriving today via UPS but I don't think it'll be delivered before I leave my house for some night riding tonight.

I don't expect it to have Kung-Fu Grip and I'm not gonna slam it if it doesn't have the same edge-hold as my old cambered Never Summer. That's a trade off you make with a soft, rockered park deck. But I am skeptical that it rides better on ice than MTX


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i dont mean to sound skeptical but when most of her posts are about "Emerge"
then it makes you wonder
also hate it or love it, MTX is proven in icy conditions. i'd like someone to give a detailed review why Emerge is better in ice
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I'll be picking one of these up in the next few weeks. Sounds perfect for me. Interested to hear what David has to say about it first. Hope it grabs as well as she claims.
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This is what it looks like in person (still in the factory plastic, a bit of glare)



Unfortunately, didn't get it in time to hit the slopes tonight. I hung around home as long as I could today before heading out for a night session hoping UPS would drop off early... I left at 330 and it was on the porch sometime before 5pm when my wife got home. Would've been nice to take it out tonight.

Rail jam on Sunday me and a friend are gonna thrash it and I'll probably ride it for a good night park session next week. Review sometime within the following week probably.

First glance impressions: fully wrapped edges are a plus in my book. I still don't understand why all companies don't do this. Feels somewhat de-tuned not super sharp, but it's a park deck so that's expected, too. Graphics look better in person than they do on the website, it's a pretty neat looking deck. I went with the rocker, but the sight-test tells me it's almost flat; maybe a few mm rise but it's hard to tell just by looking at it. I will try and get tech specs on this, as well as eff. edge, waist, etc. One thing off the bat that I notice is that 4x2 inset pattern. It's not a deal-breaker but I'd prefer more options in 8x2.
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I understand that you want to push the Emerge company (as evidenced in your many Emerge this and that posts), but do you work for them? You started posting around the same time as an Emerge employee and you are pushing their snowboards hardcore it seems.

I'm actually interested in this new brand and would like to see David's perspective on it. Someone that I know for a fact is unbiased


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Who does 4x4 inserts anymore? My Blank board, which was less than $200, has 7 lengthwise. What's 8x2? I thought 4x2 (usually 6 holes lengthwise) was pretty much the standard these days.
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I guess my terminology is wrong here I meant "4x2" which apparently (I have no idea why) actually refers to 8 sets of holes per binding. Weird. I guess ya learn something every day. To me, that's what I meant by 8x2.

Anyone know why 4x2 means eight pairs of holes and 4x4 means four pairs of holes? Leo?


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I guess my terminology is wrong here I meant "4x2" which apparently (I have no idea why) actually refers to 8 sets of holes per binding. Weird. I guess ya learn something every day. To me, that's what I meant by 8x2.

Anyone know why 4x2 means eight pairs of holes and 4x4 means four pairs of holes? Leo?
I think its based on the spacing of the inserts rather than the number of inserts. So its width X length (4 cm X 2 cm)

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well that makes sense so the 4 refers to the "4-hole pattern" and not the number of holes, huh?

So your board has 7 sets. I just double-checked both my ride and bataleon have 6. I guess I never really counted just saw more holes and assumed it was 8. Derrrrrrr


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Qball is correct. First number stands for the the number of holes used on a binding. Second number stands for the distance between the sets of holes.

4x4 = 4 hole system with 4cm spacing between each set

4x2 = 4 hole system with 2cm spacing

Same binding can be used for either. 4x4 has pretty much been phased out. I'm sure some kids or generic boards still use it though.


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