2011/12 Never Summer Proto CT - Page 9 - Snowboarding Forum

hhaidar · 11-22-2011, 01:42 PM

come up to VT!

snowklinger · 11-22-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hhaidar

this is just my .02 for what its worth and I know that others on here disagree with me. I've ridden of few Never Summer's (owned an evo last year and have a Proto for this year. They hook up real quick if you don't detune those contact points. I'm a big believer in blending the contact points and I find it helps a lot.

Ty for this. I detuned last night and no problems today ... can u be more specific about the detuning around the contact points and how far in u 'blend'?

hhaidar · 11-22-2011, 10:06 PM

I'm going to link to a couple blog posts. one is from my blog http://http://geeksofshred.com/2010/12/04/hello-world/. The other is Snomie's (he has a nice illustration of what I'm getting at).
Reduce Edge Catching – How To Detune Your Snowboard’s Edges | Snomie. Hope they help. Hit me up if you have any questions

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Leo · 11-23-2011, 08:22 AM

Yea, if you find that it catches like a bad STD from a Sunday morning hooker, then definitely detune.

I personally don't detune my boards. The ice I ride detunes them for me

Hhaidar and Snomie know their ish so great links!

jyuen · 11-23-2011, 10:10 AM

Still not really sure how to detune a rocker.

On a standard camber board... i just put the board on the ground and detune tip and tail to the point where the board touches the ground.

Do you really have to detune the Proto since its a rocker and it has blunted tips?

david_z · 11-23-2011, 11:32 AM

you never have to detune a board. it is personal preference for some people though especially for rails to detune between contact points.

snowklinger · 11-23-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jyuen

Still not really sure how to detune a rocker.

On a standard camber board... i just put the board on the ground and detune tip and tail to the point where the board touches the ground.

Do you really have to detune the Proto since its a rocker and it has blunted tips?

read my post a few up. maybe this won't happen to you. i would say i'm intermediate in skill and in general do not have problems catching an edge. detuning seemed to help, but its hard to say maybe i'm just getting used to the board (only about 6-8 hours over 2 days on it) and my first time with non classic camber.

hhaidar · 11-24-2011, 06:58 AM

Leo thanks for the vote of confidence. Detuning a rockered board is the same as detuning a cambered board...you still have contact points. The point about rockered boards being less catchy is also very true. David and Leo's points about never having to detune a board are right on. For me though, I would much rather take care of it right out of the box and have it ready to go they way I like it instead of walking on eggshells the first few runs. I personally hate the feeling of my edges hooking up on me. (and I do ride the northeast where we get a fair bit of ice.)
My proto 152 came in the mail last night. I have to say it looks great and I'm looking forward to it as my primary deck for the season! This detune conversation must be subliminally haunting me though because when i picked it up my first thought was "sweet" and the second was "gotta go find that file."
I'm not sure we'll have the coverage to ride it this weekend. As soon as I can get a day or two on it I'll be updating my review.

hhaidar · 11-24-2011, 07:01 AM

snowklinger. I'm not very technically advanced. If you're still having questions about where to blend the contact points maybe I can get some pictures for you when I do the proto. Let me know.

B.Gilly · 11-24-2011, 08:43 AM

Detuning is a personal preference so With a rockered/hybrid rocker what I do to find the contact points is look for the widest width area on the tip and tail(measuring tape will work for this) and mark them with a bit of tape or whatever. With Rocker/Camber tech you can just put some weight on the tip and see where it contacts the floor(just outside the cambered spots) to find the contact points then repeat for the tail.

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Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,212	Yea, if you find that it catches like a bad STD from a Sunday morning hooker, then definitely detune. I personally don't detune my boards. The ice I ride detunes them for me Hhaidar and Snomie know their ish so great links! __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

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jyuen -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 397	Still not really sure how to detune a rocker. On a standard camber board... i just put the board on the ground and detune tip and tail to the point where the board touches the ground. Do you really have to detune the Proto since its a rocker and it has blunted tips? __________________ 2007 Rome Agent 155, 2011 Rome Artifact Rocker 150, 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 152 2011 Union Contacts, 2012 Flux SF45, 2008 Rome 390's (Retired) 2011 Zoom Kaiju, 2007 Thirtytwo Prospects (Retired)

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david_z Official SBF Blogger Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Detroit suburbs Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 5	you never have to detune a board. it is personal preference for some people though especially for rails to detune between contact points. __________________ Repping the world's smallest mountains... Mt. Holly - 12 Pine Knob - 9 Alpine Valley - 2 Vail - 4 Breckenridge - 3 Crystal Mountain (MI) - 3 Hawk Island Snow Park - 5 Caberfae Peaks - 1 Boyne Mountain - 1 aGNARchy: no rules, just gnar!

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B.Gilly -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Berkshires Posts: 769	Detuning is a personal preference so With a rockered/hybrid rocker what I do to find the contact points is look for the widest width area on the tip and tail(measuring tape will work for this) and mark them with a bit of tape or whatever. With Rocker/Camber tech you can just put some weight on the tip and see where it contacts the floor(just outside the cambered spots) to find the contact points then repeat for the tail. __________________ The season is almost upon us!!!! www.facebook.com/Gillyssnowboardshop

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11-22-2011, 01:42 PM	#81 (permalink)
hhaidar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 121	come up to VT!

11-22-2011, 10:06 PM	#83 (permalink)
hhaidar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 121	I'm going to link to a couple blog posts. one is from my blog http://http://geeksofshred.com/2010/12/04/hello-world/. The other is Snomie's (he has a nice illustration of what I'm getting at). Reduce Edge Catching – How To Detune Your Snowboard’s Edges \| Snomie. Hope they help. Hit me up if you have any questions .

11-24-2011, 06:58 AM	#88 (permalink)
hhaidar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 121	Leo thanks for the vote of confidence. Detuning a rockered board is the same as detuning a cambered board...you still have contact points. The point about rockered boards being less catchy is also very true. David and Leo's points about never having to detune a board are right on. For me though, I would much rather take care of it right out of the box and have it ready to go they way I like it instead of walking on eggshells the first few runs. I personally hate the feeling of my edges hooking up on me. (and I do ride the northeast where we get a fair bit of ice.) My proto 152 came in the mail last night. I have to say it looks great and I'm looking forward to it as my primary deck for the season! This detune conversation must be subliminally haunting me though because when i picked it up my first thought was "sweet" and the second was "gotta go find that file." I'm not sure we'll have the coverage to ride it this weekend. As soon as I can get a day or two on it I'll be updating my review.

11-24-2011, 07:01 AM	#89 (permalink)
hhaidar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 121	snowklinger. I'm not very technically advanced. If you're still having questions about where to blend the contact points maybe I can get some pictures for you when I do the proto. Let me know.