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Old 10-25-2011, 09:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I own 2 GoPros and love them both. You can use for more than just snowboarding. You can take em swimming, diving, etc. without buying anything extra. The fisheye lense is what makes them better then everything else since. Also, now that their price dropped down to $240 you can't not get it.... I really want a Hero2 right about now...
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:02 AM   #22 (permalink)
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the contour hd is about three models old. do the comparison with the contour+ then see what you come up with. and i don't own a contour and will probably buy a go pro but thats purely because of the mounting system.
I'd be happy to update the review with the Contour+ if you're going to give me one (nobody is beating down my door offering to give me free shit, and I can't afford to buy every single new piece of gear that comes out).
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:06 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The Hero2 has hands down the best video quality out of all pov cameras I've seen. It even put's some professional cameras at shame.
Two people here at work helped one of the basejumper with the promo video and looking at the raw video from the Hero2 was insane, crystal clear video and amazing color. All in all an awesome camera.
No offense to this poster, but take anyone who claims that any POV cam puts professional cameras to shame to be someone who probably has no idea what they are talking about.

POV cameras all cut corners to maintain their size and FOVs options on fixed lens optics. (Physics are physics, unless they are using some kind of alien technology they stole from a Stargate).

Before you get a POV camera you should ask yourself whether most of the video you're going to be taking is of yourself or other people. When I ride with cameras, I bring a (helmet mounted) CountourHD and a Canon 7D with an 85mm f/1.8 lens (DSLR that does video).

A friend of mine has a GoPro, so I have played with it a teeny bit.

I have a couple of gripes with POV cams, but gripe #1 is the barrel distortion from the short-focal-length/wide-FOV that they are manufactured for. Grip #2 is the fact that any objects not fairly close to the center of the image are horribly blurred because of the cheap optics (bad edge sharpness).

If you're right there in the action recording then you can get satisfactory results (assuming you figure out which white balance and exposure settings work best for you), but if you want more versatility then I would suggest a hand-held video camera, or even a digital point-and-shoot camera that can do video. They will be easier to adjust, and they will require less tweaking if you do any post-editing. They are also ~$0–$100 cheaper (depending on what you get). $300 will buy you a much nicer point and shoot camera with video than a contour/gopro/drift/whatever-POV cam

Now, I have not used the Contour+, ContourROAM, or GoPro HD2, so I cannot say for sure whether this holds for the latest models, but I would be extremely skeptical of any huge improvements in optical clarity without any major changes to the cameras' form factors.

I do not (quite) regret purchasing my ContourHD, but if I had to do it again, then I would spend the money on a better video camera or buy an older/cheaper model.

Straight out of the box, the ContourHD has a superior mounting system for a snowboarder (goggle mount). It gets in the way less and falls off less than the stock GoPro helmet mount (unless they have changed it in the last year).

Borrow one first if you can and decide whether its for you.

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if you want more versatility then I would suggest a hand-held video camera, or even a digital point-and-shoot camera that can do video. They will be easier to adjust, and they will require less tweaking if you do any post-editing. They are also ~$0$100 cheaper (depending on what you get). $300 will buy you a much nicer point and shoot camera with video than a contour/gopro/drift/whatever-POV cam
Any particular handhelds that you would recommend? When I looked at these options a year or two ago, most of the reviews for video cameras in this price range mentioned horrible to non-existent image stabilization.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The CountourHD is really cheap. Is it that bad? Slight differences between the models don't bother me. They're not going to be on the level of my 5DMkII but that's fine. For $130 that ain't too bad.
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No offense to this poster, but take anyone who claims that any POV cam puts professional cameras to shame to be someone who probably has no idea what they are talking about.

POV cameras all cut corners to maintain their size and FOVs options on fixed lens optics. (Physics are physics, unless they are using some kind of alien technology they stole from a Stargate).

Before you get a POV camera you should ask yourself whether most of the video you're going to be taking is of yourself or other people. When I ride with cameras, I bring a (helmet mounted) CountourHD and a Canon 7D with an 85mm f/1.8 lens (DSLR that does video).

A friend of mine has a GoPro, so I have played with it a teeny bit.

I have a couple of gripes with POV cams, but gripe #1 is the barrel distortion from the short-focal-length/wide-FOV that they are manufactured for. Grip #2 is the fact that any objects not fairly close to the center of the image are horribly blurred because of the cheap optics (bad edge sharpness).

If you're right there in the action recording then you can get satisfactory results (assuming you figure out which white balance and exposure settings work best for you), but if you want more versatility then I would suggest a hand-held video camera, or even a digital point-and-shoot camera that can do video. They will be easier to adjust, and they will require less tweaking if you do any post-editing. They are also ~$0$100 cheaper (depending on what you get). $300 will buy you a much nicer point and shoot camera with video than a contour/gopro/drift/whatever-POV cam

Now, I have not used the Contour+, ContourROAM, or GoPro HD2, so I cannot say for sure whether this holds for the latest models, but I would be extremely skeptical of any huge improvements in optical clarity without any major changes to the cameras' form factors.

I do not (quite) regret purchasing my ContourHD, but if I had to do it again, then I would spend the money on a better video camera or buy an older/cheaper model.

Straight out of the box, the ContourHD has a superior mounting system for a snowboarder (goggle mount). It gets in the way less and falls off less than the stock GoPro helmet mount (unless they have changed it in the last year).

Borrow one first if you can and decide whether its for you.
Find me a 300$ P&S camera shoots better video than than a HeroHD2 or Countour+ and also take the abuse that comes without mountain sport photography\video , I just don't think they exist and even if they did I sure wouldn't want to take them out onto the mountain.

With that said I am looking forward to the day when I buy a NEW D-SLR and can use all my lenses to shoot video with but each one of those lenses cost far more than 300$ not to mention the 1000$ camera body itself.
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Find me a 300$ P&S camera shoots better video than than a HeroHD2 or Countour+ and also take the abuse that comes without mountain sport photography\video , I just don't think they exist and even if they did I sure wouldn't want to take them out onto the mountain.

With that said I am looking forward to the day when I buy a NEW D-SLR and can use all my lenses to shoot video with but each one of those lenses cost far more than 300$ not to mention the 1000$ camera body itself.
That's not what he said though. He just said these cameras don't put any "professional" cameras to shame. Of course not.

But for what it is, it's great.
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$300 will buy you a much nicer point and shoot camera with video than a contour/gopro/drift/whatever-POV cam
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That's not what he said though. He just said these cameras don't put any "professional" cameras to shame. Of course not.

But for what it is, it's great.
he also said that
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he also said that
Oops. Yeah you wont find something comparable in P&S for that price range
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Oops. Yeah you wont find something comparable in P&S for that price range
yea i dont think so either and with the new hero HD2 i think it really is at least almost on par with some of the professional cameras out there.
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