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Old 02-13-2013, 01:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Picked up this board a few months ago in the Dark color way and threw a set of Rome 390 Boss bindings on it. I've been riding a Skate Banana for almost three years now and decided that I would try a hybrid camber this time. So far I like the board a lot. For an all mountain board it's great, very stiff, and powerful in the turns too but I'm going to break this review down into three main catagories, stability, control, over all feel

1) Stability, the hybrid camber or C2 Banana tech is an up grade over the normal banana rocker that Lib-Tech is known for. At nuking speeds the board doesn't chatter and feels like its never out of control. Launching jumps either in the park or anywhere else feels solid. Powerful Ollies are easy on this stick unlike reverse camber boards and landings are much more stable too. Never once did it feel like the board was going to wash out at speed or from a harsh landing. But the hybrid camber does have a small flaw. You lose that catch free feeling rocker camber gives you in the Skate Banana.

2) Control, the Maga-Traction edges to me blow away most edges on the market right now in my opinion. And I give these reasons, more contact points per edge, can be ridden more de-tuned than most boards, and less time in matainence due to having to sharpen less. That being said, from the factory and out if the package I had to de-tune these edges due to how sharp they were and felt overly grabby. A few minutes with a gummi stone fixed this problem quickly. The overall stiffness of the board combined with the aggressive side cut made for easy control and savage edge control even in hard pack. Ice grip is good but not much better than most boards. I'm thinking if I kept the edges sharper it might hold better in ice. The hybrid camber even though can be catchy makes up for this with better control at high speed than rocker camber.

3) Over all board feel, the board inspires confidence to go bigger and is forgiving enough even being with it being as stiff as the board is. Most stiff boards seem to tire the rider out quicker but not this board. I'm comparing it against my Rome Mod when it comes to this. As fast as my Mod is the stiffness beats up my legs in chop. The TRS feels at home in chop, pow, groomers, and even in the trees too. Gives you the feeling that this board wants to charge all the time. But I can feel the performance if this board go down when ridden at slower speeds. So I would have to say that the TRS is not a beginner friendly board in any way. At slower speeds the edges feel like they drag and turn initiation isn't as sharp. Once you've got this bad boy at speed it feels like your riding a mountain destroying cruise missile.

In all great board as long as you like to charge down hill. Use the mountain as park and hit everything at high speed. The stiffness of the board I would say isn't ideal for the park and I haven't tried it there much for jibbing. But for jumps of any size the TRS is good to hit anything. For an all mountain board good for pow and sending it on jumps get one. If you're looking for a jib board there is better out ther "EG" Lib-Tech Skate Banana, now my dedicated park board.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good review. What size did you get? Also, how much do you weigh?
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I'm a taller dude at 6ft 2in and weight about 220 I'm currently using the 161 for more stability and powder if the moment happens. So far loving the board. My only small complaint is I miss that Catch Free feeling my Skate Banana gives me. But the TRS is way more stable at speed and out ollies that board easily. Still for hard charging its one of the best boards I've ridden.

My top six boards of all time that I've owned are and in no paticular order.

Lib- Tech Skate Banana 156W

Rome Agent 158

Lib-Tech TRS 161

Burton Custom-X 158

Burton Fish 156 HD ( no powder board like it )

Rome Mod 160 (backcountry destroyer)
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Thanks for the info. I was thinking about a 159 TRS myself (190 lbs). How would you compare it to the Agent? I have a 160 cambered Agent right now.
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Thanks for the info. I was thinking about a 159 TRS myself (190 lbs). How would you compare it to the Agent? I have a 160 cambered Agent right now.
Stiffer than the cambered agent for sure, the side cut to the TRS is more aggressive and the Magne-Traction edges are a definite upgrade. But I have an older agent. Before the duel side-cut but I did demo an new agent rocker and I almost bought that before I demoed the TRS. Both boards were awesome and in still thinking about adding the Agent Rocker to my quiver of boards I own too. What came down to it was the base on the TRS felt faster, the edges were more aggressive, the true twin shape of the TRS felt more natural, and the over all stiffness of the board. I was looking for and All Mountain board that could charge down hill and be perfect for jumps either man made or natural. Both boards are great, but I preferred the TRS. But the Agent Rocker was close second. If you like Rome the Mod is closer to the TRS. It's a twin board that matches the TRS in stiffness and can go huge on if you want to.

I like both Rome and Lib- Tech for boards I'd buy either company anytime. Both back up their products and build quality stuff.
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My Agent camber is a bit older too. So, this is a good comparison. Thanks!
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Thanks for the info. I was thinking about a 159 TRS myself (190 lbs). How would you compare it to the Agent? I have a 160 cambered Agent right now.
I am the same weight 190 lbs, and have the 162 TRS (I don't think there is a 161). Good board, but I wish I went with a 159. It turns well and rides fast. I found that it was not quite as stable as some wider lib tech boards, but more playful with more pop. Unless you are planning a lot of powder days, I think you are fine with 159.

I agree that you have to file down the edges a little. It's too grabby out of the box. I only detuned toward the nose and tail, but it made a big difference and rode a lot better after that.
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Very good review of the trs, thank.you! Especially the comparison with the skate banana. Can't really decide which one to get. On the one hand the trs material seems better using basaltans stuff on the other hand i think what the skate banana features is totally enough for me. I am am advanced rider, riding since ten years, i weigh 128. I am not a park rider,.but i don't know if i can ride an mountain destroying missile either, i don't go on high speed every chance i get, so i am.not sure if the trs is "too much" for me? I am looking for a relaxed board, which kind of takes me to the next riding level for the next 4-5 years.

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Very good review of the trs, thank.you! Especially the comparison with the skate banana. Can't really decide which one to get. On the one hand the trs material seems better using basaltans stuff on the other hand i think what the skate banana features is totally enough for me. I am am advanced rider, riding since ten years, i weigh 128. I am not a park rider,.but i don't know if i can ride an mountain destroying missile either, i don't go on high speed every chance i get, so i am.not sure if the trs is "too much" for me? I am looking for a relaxed board, which kind of takes me to the next riding level for the next 4-5 years.

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You would probably be fine with either board.

To be honest, I disagree with the review on a couple of points:
  • TRS is not really that stiff. Stiffer than the Skate Banana for sure (esp. in the tips – the camber sections contribute to that), but pretty mid range for all-mountain decks.
  • While the TRS encourages charging (to a degree), it actually does ride slow perfectly fine. Again, not a Skate Banana, but definitely plenty playful at slower speeds.

Frankly, it sounds like the OP was in a bit over his head with the TRS and his skills (esp. for charging and speed) were still catching up with what the board can handle.
So while the review is correct that the Skate Banana is even less catchy and more playful, the TRS is definitely not primarily a ‘missile’ and should not be ‘too much’ for an advanced rider.

A few other considerations:
  • If you are looking at 2013-14 models, the camber profile for the TRS has changed so the above review is not fully applicable.
  • Also, for 2013-14 there is the Superbanana, which has the profile and construction of the 2012-13 TRS, but a softer flex closer to the Skate Banana – that could be good choice for you.
  • Finally, is your weight 128lbs/58kg or 128kg/280lbs? If the latter, then there is no Skate Banana that is big and stiff enough for you for all-mountain riding. Conversely if you weigh 128lbs/58kg, then you are right at the bottom end of the weight range for a TRS (unless your feet are small enough that one of the narrow sizes).
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Thank you for that quick reply, very helpful!! I meant 128 lbs/58 kg !.
I think 154 cm should be fine.

I also was looking at the 2013-2014 TRS - do i loose a lot of playfullness with the new camber profile?
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