Alright, so I bought the 11.5, 09 Vans Cirro. I am wearing them right now as I type my opinion log. I bought them for a good deal, $230 at Welcome to the Seattle Snowboard Connection
(great customer service). I've ridden only Forum team and Forum boa boots prior to these and I will never go back. When I first tried them on I was surprised how snug they were being I usually wear a 10.5/11. I'm really glad I got the extra half size or the slope would eat my toes. I have tested them in every way except actual snowboarding ha-ha but simulated through running, jumping, chilling and laced flex testing I can give you the pros:
First off, all black just does it for me and the outer shell is nice and stiff and has consistent, subtly appealing texture, yea I'm compulsive about symmetry. No sewing/seam/glue defects, durable rubber toes, grippy tread pattern, impact absorbing soul, warm bla bla........the Focus Boa system is downright amazing for me, it really does get a strong hold, I tightened them up tight and it was like my foot was in concrete. Will have to time test on the mountain for solid proof, but I am confident, and you can't beat just pulling the knobs to go right back to lunch break lounge mode. These boots have the added feature of switching the J bars around the ankles on the liner although I can't give my opinion about since they "fell out of the box" at the store and are in the mail. The regular ones work fine right now. I really like that the shell and liner have separate pull on straps, quick and easy.
Cons: The boot isn't articulated so toe flex bulges the sides out a little. I have a few small bits about the liner. The shin strap doesn’t close as firm as I wish it could, the strap just seems too long, with not enough Velcro, you know. I actually tie my liner since the closure mechanism just doesn’t hold super tight, ironically with this crazy wire trap you can’t get a metal fastener to make liner synching a synch, but that is really no hassle since the shell tongue gives ample room to get a knot. At first the liner tongue seams bothered me as I could feel the two lines going down my shin and foot, but after I broke the boots in they flattened out and now I can’t feel them a bit, even through the thin dress socks I have on.
With thick socks these boots are as comfy and supportive a boot could get for me. I have no regrets and can not wait to stomp in them! Thanks Vans.
Kind of long, but I hope it helps for anyone interested, Cheers fellas.