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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-06-2008, 06:28 PM
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Post '09 Flow Team Bindings First Impression!!!!!

Alright, time to vent!!!

With these being my first Team pair of flow bindings (had the NXT AT one season a few seasons ago) I am totally P'd off and the engineering with these things. Don't get me wrong, their light, and seem strong, but the hardware used to put these thing together, and the process you need to take to adjust them for the first time, royally suck!!!! i have been working on 1 binding for over 5 hours and had to give up for now because im so frustrated and upset. Flow uses this 2 part screw (on side is a male screw, the other side is a female screw (imagine a screw with no threads on the outside, but a hole drilled in the middle with threads on the inside) with a one direction lock washer that has a square hole in the middle that attaches to the female side.........super hard to explain. The point is:
I followed the "user setup guide" instructions and these stupid screws will not come apart, without first being destroyed in the process.
(I have a complete shop full of tools) so its not that im using A tool that isnt really capable of doing the job.
Its really frustrating, I emailed Flow twice to express how upset I am, and requested a full set of replacement hardware for the pair. Im waiting for a reply from them, before I put together a better hardware system that I know will still be just as effective and safe.
Just my First Impressions on these New for 2009 "professional" team bindings from Flow.
Im open to questions and comments.
I know im brand new here and this is my first post, so bare with me, and my frustrations.

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quick to get into but hard to set up.
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quick to get into but hard to set up.
i dont understand how it could take 5 hours...mine were perfect in like 40 minutes. i havent touched them since i finished..
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i dont understand how it could take 5 hours...mine were perfect in like 40 minutes. i havent touched them since i finished..
you didnt have any trouble with those screws???? did you not have to adjust the heel plate or the ladder straps, or the tension cable?
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you didnt have any trouble with those screws???? did you not have to adjust the heel plate or the ladder straps, or the tension cable?


Oh yea, theres soemthing I forgot in my review, we had the exact same problem, trying to move the highback back one position, completely stripped the screws on the side, it would not come out. Bought 2 new philips screw drivers just for these freakin' bindings, made no difference.
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you didnt have any trouble with those screws???? did you not have to adjust the heel plate or the ladder straps, or the tension cable?
just the heel plate..havent really touched the screws though. maybe thats a good thing lol...i though you were talking about adjusting the strap..
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Oh yea, theres soemthing I forgot in my review, we had the exact same problem, trying to move the highback back one position, completely stripped the screws on the side, it would not come out. Bought 2 new philips screw drivers just for these freakin' bindings, made no difference.
So how did you rectify putting your bindings back together? Did you just use some stainless hardware from the hardware store?

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just the heel plate..havent really touched the screws though. maybe thats a good thing lol...i though you were talking about adjusting the strap..
I wish my only problem was with the straps.
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So how did you rectify putting your bindings back together? Did you just use some stainless hardware from the hardware store?



I wish my only problem was with the straps.


One of em I got off fine and moved the highback.. the other one I could not even get off on one side it stripped, it would not budge, so I just put it back together and moved the other highback into its original position.. then I returned them and bought K2 Autos
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Well, its been almost a week, and no response from Flow. In the manual it says if you visit Flow.com, there is a download section on their site, to look at the overvier parts list for the team bindings. Well I searched the entire site to no avail. I brought that to their attention when I wrote them twice about how dissapointed i was with the hardware. So no real info on the flow site to help with my repair, and the customer service is non existent. You might want to think twice before buying a flow product!!!
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In order to get ahold of Flow you need to phone them not email. Phoning them will get instant results.

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