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There's snow in San Francisco?
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There's snow in San Francisco?
There's a ski mountain in San Francisco?

Obviously, the OP is driving somewhere to the mountains that have an outdoor ski resort that sees wintry conditions.
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I don't know about your specific tire, but I'm really happy worth my Cooper ATP's. The traction is great in the wet and mud. Had them on ice a while ago and they were better than any other all terrain pickup tire I've driven on ice. Tread wear is awesome so far. I'll buy Coopers again for sure.

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I don't know about your specific tire, but I'm really happy worth my Cooper ATP's. The traction is great in the wet and mud. Had them on ice a while ago and they were better than any other all terrain pickup tire I've driven on ice. Tread wear is awesome so far. I'll buy Coopers again for sure.
The ATP is the Zeon LTZ. It's just specifically made for Discount Tire. If you like them, more power to you, but they are by far the worst tires I've ever ran on a truck. Fine on wet and dry pavement, suck ass everywhere else.

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The lugs on the ATP appear to be larger with wider spacing? I always thought the Zeons were more of a sport truck all terrain cross, are they M+S spec or something else?

I don't know but I'm happy with the ATP. They had bite in the ice, who knows when they'll see any real snow. They work good in the mud for an all terrain, nothing like a real mud tire.

If I was buying dedicated snow tires I'd go with Michelins. They make awesome tires.
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I chose Continental CrossContact Winter tires for my SUV (driving a mix of highway/city/mountain streets in dry/rain/slush/snow/ice conditions) due to good reviews of independent test institutions over here.

Little side-story: Last season, hubby asked if he can borrow my (then brand new!) 4x4 for his boys-trip up to the mountain since heavy snowfall was announced, and the steep narrow roads demand snow chains with his front-wheel drive car. - Sure you can, take care, itís brand new Ė Sure, no question.
The night they were driving up, hubby called to excitedly tell me how great the (MY BRAND NEW!) car performs on the 20cm snow covered roads, when one of the pack yelled in the background "HA, not only on the roads, we're taking a shortcut over a piste right now, itís rad!Ē
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There's a ski mountain in San Francisco?

Obviously, the OP is driving somewhere to the mountains that have an outdoor ski resort that sees wintry conditions.

Ever heard of lake Tahoe? Kirkwood is about 2:45 from my home in the SF bay area, the Contour video is one of the best days of last season that sucked overall.



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No don't do it. Cooper passenger car tires in general, especially their cheapest ones, are exactly what you pay for. If you want something cheaper, Kumho and Hankook actually have some bang for the buck AS tires. Of course the best in order are Michelin PS AS3, Continental ExtremeContact DWS, Goodyear Eagle GT.

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No don't do it. Cooper passenger car tires in general, especially their cheapest ones, are exactly what you pay for. If you want something cheaper, Kumho and Hankook actually have some bang for the buck AS tires. Of course the best in order are Michelin PS AS3, Continental ExtremeContact DWS, Goodyear Eagle GT.
Too Late. The look pretty slick. I'll tell you saturday night how the drive went.

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